Talk:Ljudski vrt/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 16:26, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, I'll review this nomination in the coming days. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:26, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

The article is very well written. Thanks for your patience, comments are below and the nomination is on hold. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:19, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, I did fix (almost) everything and included changes and comments below. Snowflake91 (talk) 22:43, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

The last two comments have been addressed, so I'm happy to give this a pass! Well done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Lead and infobox

• "A notable feature of the stadium..." → The word "notable" should probably be replaced here per MOS:EDITORIAL
  • Comment: Replaced "notable" with "prominent" to make it less NPOV.
• "the stadium is also occasionally used by the Slovenia national football team" → does the women's national team use the stadium as well, or just the men?
  • Comment: Men's only, replaced with "Slovenian men's national football team".

History

• "acquire a football field in the area for the next ten years. In the same year, I. SSK Maribor also acquired a football field in the same area" → Not the worst thing in the world, but the phrase "acquire[d] a football field" gets a bit repetitive here
  • Comment: Replaced "acquired" with "obtained" in the second sentence.
• "...due to the food poisoning affair." → as this currently reads, "the food poisoning affair" doesn't have any context and sort of comes out of left field (though I am intrigued), so I'd recommend giving just a touch of explanation of what this means.
  • Comment: Expanded and explained the reasons for disbandment.
• "without a club that would play on a professional level" → If I'm reading this correctly, I think "without a professional club" would be a more concise way to say this, also avoids the issue with tenses
  • Comment: Fixed.
• "as much as 20,000 spectators" → reads more naturally as "as many as 20,000 spectators"
  • Comment: Fixed.
• "During the 1967–68 season" → link 1967–68 Yugoslav First League
  • Comment: Done.
• "with the ground's conversion" → this reads better to me as "as part of the ground's conversion"
  • Comment: Done.
• A few issues with this sentence: "A year later, Maribor became the first and to date the only Slovenian club to qualify for the elite UEFA Champions League."
  • Commas are needed around "to date"
  • While the UCL is relatively well-recognized as the "elite" league of its kind, the inclusion of the word "elite" could bring some WP:NPOV issues
  • Inclusion of the phrase "to date" means the sentence needs some sort of indicator as to when the timeframe of that statement is based around, such as something like {{As of}}
    • Comment: Removed "elite", added commas and "{{as of|{{CURRENTYEAR}}|lc=y}}" template.
• "In 2000, an irrigation system was installed to irrigate the pitch" → a touch redundant
  • Comment: Done, removed redundant "to irrigate the pitch".
• "due to incorrect calculations of project costs, which rose to €8 million" → the €8 million figure is good to include but is not as informative without a mention of what the initial cost was going to be, or by how much the cost increased
  • Comment: The source says that the fee raised to €3million more than intially planned, so I've added this --> "which rose to €8 million, which was €3 million more than initially planned"; however, it might be weird now with two "which" words so close, if you have any idea how to rephrase it better it would be great.
    • Could we simplify it to just say "...which rose from €5 million to €8 million."? Or perhaps "...which ended up at €8 million, compared to the original estimate of €5 million."? PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
      • Done, "which rose from €5 million to €8 million" sounds fine. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
• The second and third paragraphs of the section "West Stand renovation" are written partially or entirely in the present tense; this should be switched to past tense since the renovations have already taken place
  • Comment: This part I dont understand, which sentence exactly should be in the past tense? I've now only changed "Other changes include new underground..." to "Other changes included new underground...", because other sentences cannot be switched to past tense as this would mean that the stadium doesn't exist anymore, or? For example:
    • "The new capacity of the West Stand is 3,265 seats" – cannot be "was 3,265 seats" since they're still there.
    • "The arched roof has retained its original appearance" – should the word "has" be removed?
    • "...have also been completed, which now include a media press centre and dressing rooms and warehouses for the football academy" – cannot switch "include" to "included" there.
    • "...and the total capacity of the stadium has been reduced to 11,671" – should be "was reduced to 11,671" there?
      • You have some very valid points there. The two remaining instances I spotted were (1) "...and the total capacity of the stadium was reduced to 11,671." and (2) "...under the North and South stands were completed..." PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
        • Done both. Snowflake91 (talk) 09:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Other uses

• This is nitpicky, but it appears that the name of the musical itself was Zorba, and the musical was based off of a book called Zorba the Greek.
  • Comment: Probably, even though the image uploaded in 2008 says "Zorba the Greek", and Slovenian media called the performance "Grk Zorba", its a minor thing anyway.
• "the tenth anniversary of the beatification" → would it be correct to say "his beatification"? If so, that change should be made.
  • Comment: Done.

Records

• Proleter and Yugoslav First League can be delinked as they are linked earlier in the article's body
  • Comment: De-linked Yugoslav League, but kept Proleter as the team is not linked in the body of the article, only in the lead section.

Transport

• Distances such as "150 m" and "1.5 km (1 mile)" should use {{Convert}}
  • Comment: Done.
• Last sentence of the section needs to be cited
  • Comment: Done and re-arranged wording a little bit, however, unlike everything else in the article, I cannot really find a reliable source for something so specific like distance from the stadium to the airport, so it is now cited to Google Maps distance and directions calculator. According to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, Google Maps are not listed as unreliable, even thought its not the best source, it can be used if there are absolutely no other sources for that.