Talk:List of subcamps of Natzweiler-Struthof

Latest comment: 8 years ago by N0TABENE in topic Doubt

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Has anyone got a source for this list? Its surprising that a tiny camp like Natzweiler-Struthof had over 50 subcamps (more than the Auschwitz complex), and it lists large cities in Germany proper such as Frankfurt am Main and Darmstadt. (Frankfurt is about 100 miles away from Natzweiler-Struthof).

The term "subcamp" means "subordiated camp", rather than "a piece of lager camp". Before asking such questions please rememeber, google is your best friend. There are quite a few references about this fact, from reputable sources, such as Holocaust Memorial Museum mikka (t) 07:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment - I think the source may be this: [1]. -- Jonel | Speak 05:18, 10 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
I don't quite remember where I exactly take this list from. My version differs. At this time I was doung a huge work about Nazi and Soviet labor camps. It was immense work, and in many places I left it unfinished, hoping that someone else will catch up. Unfortunately, there is not so many enthusiasts to dig the dirt of the past. It seems it is much more fun to write Pokemon articles and wage political edit wars on modern topics. mikka (t) 07:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Some more details about the evolution of the subcamp system are in the German article de:KZ Natzweiler-Struthof and de:Liste der Außenlager des KZ Natzweiler-Struthof. mikka (t) 07:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

KZ Walldorf near Frankfurt also belonged to Natzweiler and is missing here (see German Wikipedia). Due to news reasons it should be mentioned.--charlandes 18:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

In addition to the reference mentioned by Jonel [2], a canonical list from the USHMM in 2009 is at: [[3]]. The lists should be concatenated, linked and disambiguated. The current sole reference does not have any list of the subcamps so it is not verifiable.N0TABENE (talk) 11:42, 14 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

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This list includes a Wilhelmsburg? Which one? Hamburg-Wilhelmsburg was a subcamp to Neuengamme. The USHHM (the ref for this list) lists no Wilhelmsburg at all ? Sebastian scha. (talk) 00:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

This list requires work edit

Hello. I did some work on this list today. Disambiguations, corrections on placenames, kicked out those, which were in the list twice, added some that were missing. Some of the camps were located between two places, some were part of a larger community and thus both names were listed separately. As source I used the much more detailled list on the german WP as well as checking articles on the mentioned locations. "Donauwiese" was the location where deceased camp inmates from Schörzingen KC were buried, so I took it from the list.

Anyway, this list requires some more work. I just corrected stuff that was more or less obviously. I´m not sure if the list is complete, but it seems to me as a collection of all places having some kind of relationship to the Natzweiler KC.

Regards --Kallewirsch (talk) 14:10, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Reply