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Cars franchise

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The Cars franchise will have a 3rd movie out this year. Planes. If it makes Cars Earn the right amount to be put on the list will it be on the list. So far Cars has Earn $1,021,835,545 ] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 11:14, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

There are quite few franchise that may become eligible this year: The Hunger Games, Die Hard and Iron Man all have sequels coming out, along with several franchises already on the list: Star Trek, X-Men, and The Fast and the Furious; Jurassic Park will be boosting its total with a reissue too. It all depends how they perform against each other. Betty Logan (talk) 11:48, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Star Wars will have a 3D rerelease (the fifth film) as well. Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 12:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Kung Fu Panda

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When Kung Fu Panda ( in 2016) is relase it will have to go on the list. it has just earn under $1.3 billion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 17:26, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 January 2013

The list is outdated, particularly in regard to the Hobbit which has, since the latest revision, added another 18 million dollars to its total. It would be great if the corresponding lists could be edited accordingly.

the gross so far is $777,220,000 this can be found on Box office mojo.

86.29.28.91 (talk) 18:22, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

The Incredible Hulk

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Is The Incredible Hulk part of the Hulk flim series not MCU — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 17:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

The Incredible Hulk film is both a part of the Hulk franchise and the MCU series. They change the actor for the Avengers film, but only because Edward Norton wanted to quit the part. Robert Downey Jr also briefly appears in The Incredible Hulk as his Iron Man character. Betty Logan (talk) 20:09, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Highest-grossing films

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 – Some editors want it shorter, some longer; unlikely either side would gain a consensus to shorten or lengthen the chart. Betty Logan (talk)

Can. We make it longer. On BOM The top 100 grosses flims are

Rank	Title	Studio	Worldwide	Domestic / %	Overseas / %	Year^
1	Avatar	Fox	$2,782.3	$760.5	27.3%	$2,021.8	72.7%	2009^
2	Titanic	Par.	$2,185.4	$658.7	30.1%	$1,526.7	69.9%	1997^
3	Marvel's The Avengers	BV	$1,511.8	$623.4	41.2%	$888.4	58.8%	2012
4	Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2	WB	$1,328.1	$381.0	28.7%	$947.1	71.3%	2011
5	Transformers: Dark of the Moon	P/DW	$1,123.7	$352.4	31.4%	$771.4	68.6%	2011
6	The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King	NL	$1,119.9	$377.8	33.7%	$742.1	66.3%	2003^
7	The Dark Knight Rises	WB	$1,081.0	$448.1	41.5%	$632.9	58.5%	2012
8	Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest	BV	$1,066.2	$423.3	39.7%	$642.9	60.3%	2006
9	Toy Story 3	BV	$1,063.2	$415.0	39.0%	$648.2	61.0%	2010
10	Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides	BV	$1,043.9	$241.1	23.1%	$802.8	76.9%	2011
11	Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace	Fox	$1,027.0	$474.5	46.2%	$552.5	53.8%	1999^
12	Alice in Wonderland (2010)	BV	$1,024.3	$334.2	32.6%	$690.1	67.4%	2010
13	Skyfall	Sony	$1,023.7	$297.3	29.0%	$726.4	71.0%	2012
14	The Dark Knight	WB	$1,004.6	$534.9	53.2%	$469.7	46.8%	2008^
15	Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone	WB	$974.8	$317.6	32.6%	$657.2	67.4%	2001
16	Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End	BV	$963.4	$309.4	32.1%	$654.0	67.9%	2007
17	Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1	WB	$956.4	$296.0	30.9%	$660.4	69.1%	2010
18	The Lion King	BV	$951.6	$422.8	44.4%	$528.8	55.6%	1994^
19	Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix	WB	$939.9	$292.0	31.1%	$647.9	68.9%	2007
20	Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince	WB	$934.4	$302.0	32.3%	$632.5	67.7%	2009
21	The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers	NL	$926.0	$342.6	37.0%	$583.5	63.0%	2002^
22	Finding Nemo	BV	$921.7	$380.8	41.3%	$540.9	58.7%	2003^
23	Shrek 2	DW	$919.8	$441.2	48.0%	$478.6	52.0%	2004
24	Jurassic Park	Uni.	$914.7	$357.1	39.0%	$557.6	61.0%	1993^
25	Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire	WB	$896.9	$290.0	32.3%	$606.9	67.7%	2005
26	Spider-Man 3	Sony	$890.9	$336.5	37.8%	$554.3	62.2%	2007
27	Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs	Fox	$886.7	$196.6	22.2%	$690.1	77.8%	2009
28	Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets	WB	$879.0	$262.0	29.8%	$617.0	70.2%	2002
29	Ice Age: Continental Drift	Fox	$875.2	$161.2	18.4%	$714.0	81.6%	2012
30	The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring	NL	$871.5	$315.5	36.2%	$556.0	63.8%	2001^
31	Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith	Fox	$848.8	$380.3	44.8%	$468.5	55.2%	2005^
32	Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen	P/DW	$836.3	$402.1	48.1%	$434.2	51.9%	2009
33	The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey	WB	$829.5	$266.7	32.2%	$562.8	67.8%	2012
34	Inception	WB	$825.5	$292.6	35.4%	$533.0	64.6%	2010
35	The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2	Sum.	$821.8	$289.3	35.2%	$532.5	64.8%	2012
36	Spider-Man	Sony	$821.7	$403.7	49.1%	$418.0	50.9%	2002
37	Independence Day	Fox	$817.4	$306.2	37.5%	$511.2	62.5%	1996^
38	Shrek the Third	P/DW	$799.0	$322.7	40.4%	$476.2	59.6%	2007
39	Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban	WB	$796.7	$249.5	31.3%	$547.1	68.7%	2004
40	E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial	Uni.	$792.9	$435.1	54.9%	$357.8	45.1%	1982^
41	Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull	Par.	$786.6	$317.1	40.3%	$469.5	59.7%	2008
42	Spider-Man 2	Sony	$783.8	$373.6	47.7%	$410.2	52.3%	2004
43	Star Wars	Fox	$775.4	$461.0	59.5%	$314.4	40.5%	1977^
44	2012	Sony	$769.7	$166.1	21.6%	$603.6	78.4%	2009
45	The Da Vinci Code	Sony	$758.2	$217.5	28.7%	$540.7	71.3%	2006
46	Shrek Forever After	P/DW	$752.6	$238.7	31.7%	$513.9	68.3%	2010
47	The Amazing Spider-Man	Sony	$752.2	$262.0	34.8%	$490.2	65.2%	2012
48	The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe	BV	$745.0	$291.7	39.2%	$453.3	60.8%	2005
49	The Matrix Reloaded	WB	$742.1	$281.6	37.9%	$460.6	62.1%	2003
50	Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted	P/DW	$742.1	$216.4	29.2%	$525.7	70.8%	2012
51	Up	BV	$731.3	$293.0	40.1%	$438.3	59.9%	2009
52	The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1	Sum.	$712.2	$281.3	39.5%	$430.9	60.5%	2011
53	The Twilight Saga: New Moon	Sum.	$709.8	$296.6	41.8%	$413.2	58.2%	2009
54	Transformers	P/DW	$709.7	$319.2	45.0%	$390.5	55.0%	2007
55	The Twilight Saga: Eclipse	Sum.	$698.5	$300.5	43.0%	$398.0	57.0%	2010
56	Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol	Par.	$694.7	$209.4	30.1%	$485.3	69.9%	2011
57	The Hunger Games	LGF	$686.5	$408.0	59.4%	$278.5	40.6%	2012
58	Forrest Gump	Par.	$677.4	$329.7	48.7%	$347.7	51.3%	1994
59	The Sixth Sense	BV	$672.8	$293.5	43.6%	$379.3	56.4%	1999
60	Kung Fu Panda 2	P/DW	$665.7	$165.2	24.8%	$500.4	75.2%	2011
61	Ice Age: The Meltdown	Fox	$655.4	$195.3	29.8%	$460.1	70.2%	2006
62	Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl	BV	$654.3	$305.4	46.7%	$348.9	53.3%	2003
63	Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones	Fox	$649.4	$310.7	47.8%	$338.7	52.2%	2002^
64	Kung Fu Panda	P/DW	$631.7	$215.4	34.1%	$416.3	65.9%	2008
65	The Incredibles	BV	$631.4	$261.4	41.4%	$370.0	58.6%	2004
66	Fast Five	Uni.	$626.1	$209.8	33.5%	$416.3	66.5%	2011
67	Hancock	Sony	$624.4	$227.9	36.5%	$396.4	63.5%	2008
68	MIB 3	Sony	$624.0	$179.0	28.7%	$445.0	71.3%	2012
69	Iron Man 2	Par.	$623.9	$312.4	50.1%	$311.5	49.9%	2010
70	Ratatouille	BV	$623.7	$206.4	33.1%	$417.3	66.9%	2007
71	The Lost World: Jurassic Park	Uni.	$618.6	$229.1	37.0%	$389.6	63.0%	1997
72	The Passion of the Christ	NM	$611.9	$370.8	60.6%	$241.1	39.4%	2004^
73	Mamma Mia!	Uni.	$609.8	$144.1	23.6%	$465.7	76.4%	2008
74	Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa	P/DW	$603.9	$180.0	29.8%	$423.9	70.2%	2008
75	Casino Royale	Sony	$599.0	$167.4	28.0%	$431.6	72.0%	2006
76	War of the Worlds	Par.	$591.7	$234.3	39.6%	$357.5	60.4%	2005
77	Tangled	BV	$590.7	$200.8	34.0%	$389.9	66.0%	2010
78	Men in Black	Sony	$589.4	$250.7	42.5%	$338.7	57.5%	1997
79	Quantum of Solace	Sony	$586.1	$168.4	28.7%	$417.7	71.3%	2008
80	I Am Legend	WB	$585.3	$256.4	43.8%	$329.0	56.2%	2007
81	Iron Man	Par.	$585.2	$318.4	54.4%	$266.8	45.6%	2008
82	The Hangover Part II	WB	$581.5	$254.5	43.8%	$327.0	56.2%	2011
83	Night at the Museum	Fox	$574.5	$250.9	43.7%	$323.6	56.3%	2006
84	The Smurfs	Sony	$563.7	$142.6	25.3%	$421.1	74.7%	2011
85	Cars 2	BV	$559.9	$191.5	34.2%	$368.4	65.8%	2011
86	Puss in Boots	P/DW	$554.7	$149.3	26.9%	$405.4	73.1%	2011
87	Monsters, Inc.	BV	$553.9	$284.4	51.3%	$269.5	48.7%	2001^
88	Armageddon	BV	$553.7	$201.6	36.4%	$352.1	63.6%	1998
89	King Kong	Uni.	$550.5	$218.1	39.6%	$332.4	60.4%	2005
90	Mission: Impossible II	Par.	$546.4	$215.4	39.4%	$331.0	60.6%	2000
91	The Day After Tomorrow	Fox	$544.3	$186.7	34.3%	$357.5	65.7%	2004
92	Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows	WB	$543.8	$186.8	34.4%	$357.0	65.6%	2011
93	Despicable Me	Uni.	$543.1	$251.5	46.3%	$291.6	53.7%	2010
94	The Empire Strikes Back	Fox	$538.4	$290.5	54.0%	$247.9	46.0%	1980^
95	Brave	BV	$535.4	$237.3	44.3%	$298.1	55.7%	2012
96	Madagascar	DW	$532.7	$193.6	36.3%	$339.1	63.7%	2005
97	The Simpsons Movie	Fox	$527.1	$183.1	34.7%	$343.9	65.3%	2007
98	Sherlock Holmes	WB	$524.0	$209.0	39.9%	$315.0	60.1%	2009
99	WALL-E	BV	$521.3	$223.8	42.9%	$297.5	57.1%	2008
100	Terminator 2: Judgment Day	TriS	$519.8	$204.8	39.4%	$315.0	60.6%	1991  

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 15:48, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

There are some people who would like the list to be longer, and some that would have it shorter, so a top 50 is a reasonable compromise. Betty Logan (talk) 20:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Film series

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BOM Says Top 100 gross film series

Franchise (click to view chart)	Total Gross	# Movies / Average	#1 Picture	Gross
Harry Potter	$2,390.1	8	$298.8	Harry Potter / Deathly Hallows (P2)	$381.0
Star Wars	$1,918.0	7	$274.0	The Phantom Menace	$431.1
James Bond	$1,905.8	24	$79.4	Skyfall	$297.3
Batman	$1,897.8	8	$237.2	The Dark Knight	$533.3
Avengers	$1,746.7	6	$291.1	The Avengers	$623.4
Shrek	$1,419.6	5	$283.9	Shrek 2	$441.2
Spider-Man	$1,375.9	4	$344.0	Spider-Man	$403.7
Twilight	$1,360.6	5	$272.1	The Twilight Saga: Eclipse	$300.5
The Lord of the Rings	$1,327.4	5	$265.5	Return of the King	$377.0
Pirates of the Caribbean	$1,279.2	4	$319.8	Dead Man's Chest	$423.3
Transformers	$1,079.6	4	$269.9	Transformers 2	$402.1
Star Trek	$1,013.3	11	$92.1	Star Trek	$257.7
X-Men	$932.9	5	$186.6	X-Men: The Last Stand	$234.4
Indiana Jones	$906.4	4	$226.6	Indiana Jones 4	$317.1
Toy Story	$883.4	4	$220.8	Toy Story 3	$415.0
Jurassic Park	$767.3	3	$255.8	Jurassic Park	$357.1
Mission: Impossible	$739.8	4	$185.0	Mission: Impossible II	$215.4
Ice Age	$729.5	4	$182.4	Ice Age 3	$196.6
The Fast and the Furious	$699.1	5	$139.8	Fast Five	$209.8
Bourne	$638.6	4	$159.6	The Bourne Ultimatum	$227.5
Iron Man	$630.8	2	$315.4	Iron Man	$318.4
Men in Black	$620.1	3	$206.7	Men in Black	$250.7
Fockers	$593.9	3	$198.0	Meet the Fockers	$279.3
The Matrix	$592.4	3	$197.5	The Matrix Reloaded	$281.6
Madagascar	$590.0	3	$196.7	Madagascar 3	$216.4
Alvin and the Chipmunks	$576.9	4	$144.2	Alvin and the Chipmunks 2	$219.6
Rocky	$565.7	6	$94.3	Rocky IV	$127.9
The Mummy	$550.9	4	$137.7	Mummy Returns	$202.0
The Chronicles of Narnia	$537.7	3	$179.2	The Chronicles of Narnia	$291.7
The Hangover	$531.8	2	$265.9	The Hangover	$277.3
Terminator	$518.9	4	$129.7	Terminator 2	$204.8
Superman	$518.1	5	$103.6	Superman Returns	$200.1
Alien	$515.9	7	$73.7	Prometheus	$126.5
Rush Hour	$507.5	3	$169.2	Rush Hour 2	$226.2
Home Alone	$490.2	3	$163.4	Home Alone	$285.8
Lethal Weapon	$487.6	4	$121.9	Lethal Weapon 2	$147.3
Austin Powers	$473.2	3	$157.7	Goldmember	$213.3
Jack Ryan	$446.5	4	$111.6	Clear and Present Danger	$122.2
Planet of the Apes	$438.6	7	$62.7	Planet of the Apes (2001)	$180.0
Die Hard	$435.1	4	$108.8	Live Free or Die Hard	$134.5
Beverly Hills Cop	$431.0	3	$143.7	Beverly Hills Cop	$234.8
The Karate Kid	$430.4	5	$86.1	The Karate Kid	$176.6
Scary Movie	$429.0	4	$107.3	Scary Movie	$157.0
Ocean's 11	$426.1	3	$142.0	Ocean's Eleven	$183.4
Hannibal Lecter	$425.3	5	$85.1	Hannibal	$165.1
Back to the Future	$416.8	3	$138.9	Back to the Future	$210.6
Saw	$415.9	7	$59.4	Saw II	$87.0
American Pie	$409.2	4	$102.3	American Pie 2	$145.1
The Hunger Games	$408.0	1	$408.0	The Hunger Games	$408.0
Jaws	$404.0	4	$101.0	Jaws	$260.0
Kung Fu Panda	$380.7	2	$190.3	Kung Fu Panda	$215.4
Friday the 13th	$380.6	12	$31.7	Freddy Vs. Jason	$82.6
Nightmare on Elm Street	$370.5	9	$41.2	Freddy Vs. Jason	$82.6
The Santa Clause	$368.6	3	$122.9	The Santa Clause	$144.8
Paranormal Activity	$350.6	4	$87.7	Paranormal Activity	$107.9
Spy Kids	$348.9	4	$87.2	Spy Kids	$112.7
Scream	$331.7	4	$82.9	Scream	$103.0
Madea	$323.4	5	$64.7	Madea Goes to Jail	$90.5
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles	$310.3	4	$77.6	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles	$135.3
Crocodile Dundee	$309.7	3	$103.2	Crocodile Dundee	$174.8
Halloween	$308.5	10	$30.9	Halloween (2007)	$58.3
Rambo	$294.1	4	$73.5	Rambo: First Blood Part II	$150.4
The Exorcist	$291.9	5	$58.4	The Exorcist	$193.0
The Muppets	$288.8	7	$41.3	The Muppets	$88.6
The Pink Panther	$282.6	10	$28.3	The Pink Panther (2006)	$82.2
Predator	$264.5	5	$52.9	Alien Vs. Predator	$80.3
Final Destination	$263.5	5	$52.7	The Final Destination	$66.5
Jackass	$254.3	3	$84.8	Jackass 3-D	$117.2
Despicable Me	$251.5	1	$251.5	Despicable Me	$251.5
The Godfather	$247.9	3	$82.6	The Godfather	$133.7
Resident Evil	$244.4	5	$48.9	Resident Evil: Afterlife	$60.1
Police Academy	$239.6	7	$34.2	Police Academy	$81.2
Dirty Harry	$227.5	5	$45.5	Sudden Impact	$67.6
Big Momma	$225.6	3	$75.2	Big Momma's House	$117.6
Underworld	$222.4	4	$55.6	Underworld Awakening	$62.3
Vacation	$218.5	4	$54.6	Christmas Vacation	$71.3
How to Train Your Dragon	$217.6	1	$217.6	How to Train Your Dragon	$217.6
The Naked Gun	$216.8	3	$72.3	Naked Gun 2 1/2	$86.9
Rugrats	$216.4	3	$72.1	Rugrats Movie	$100.5
Blade	$204.8	3	$68.3	Blade II	$82.3
Step Up	$200.8	4	$50.2	Step Up	$65.3
Herbie the Love Bug	$200.5	5	$40.1	Herbie: Fully Loaded	$66.0
Smokey and the Bandit	$198.5	3	$66.2	Smokey and the Bandit	$126.7
Look Who's Talking	$198.2	3	$66.1	Look Who's Talking	$140.1
Texas Chainsaw Massacre	$188.8	7	$27.0	Texas Chainsaw Massacre	$80.6
Barbershop	$177.2	3	$59.1	Barbershop	$75.8
Amityville	$170.5	4	$42.6	The Amityville Horror	$86.4
Diary of a Wimpy Kid	$165.7	3	$55.2	Diary of a Wimpy Kid	$64.0
The Omen	$162.5	4	$40.6	The Omen	$60.9
Alex Cross	$160.5	3	$53.5	Along Came a Spider	$74.1
Porky's	$159.8	3	$53.3	Porky's	$105.5
The Smurfs	$153.8	2	$76.9	The Smurfs	$142.6
Godzilla	$150.9	4	$37.7	Godzilla	$136.3
Pokemon	$149.0	5	$29.8	Pokemon 1	$85.7
Arthur	$143.2	3	$47.7	Arthur	$95.5
Poltergeist	$131.7	3	$43.9	Poltergeist	$76.6
Child's Play	$126.2	5	$25.2	Child's Play	$33.2
The Mighty Ducks	$119.3	3	$39.8	The Mighty Ducks	$50.8
Friday	$118.0	3	$39.3	Next Friday	$57.3
Free Willy	$111.2	3	$37.1	Free Willy	$77.7
Robocop	$109.8	3	$36.6	Robocop	$53.4
Witch Mountain	$103.6	3	$34.5	Race to Witch Mountain	$67.2
Psycho	$102.7	4	$25.7	Psycho II	$34.7
Transporter	$100.1	3	$33.4	Transporter 2	$43.1
Riddick	$97.0	2	$48.5	The Chronicles of Riddick	$57.8
Ernest	$92.3	5	$18.5	Ernest Saves Christmas	$28.2
Conan	$91.9	3	$30.6	Conan the Barbarian	$39.6
Harold and Kumar	$91.4	3	$30.5	Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay	$38.1
The Bad News Bears	$91.3	4	$22.8	Bad News Bears	$32.9
Benji	$89.6	5	$17.9	Benji	$39.6
Major League	$84.0	3	$28.0	Major League	$49.8
El Mariachi	$83.8	3	$27.9	Once Upon a Time in Mexico	$56.4
Oh, God!	$77.7	3	$25.9	Oh, God!	$41.7
Mad Max	$68.6	3	$22.9	Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome	$36.2
House Party	$65.1	3	$21.7	House Party	$26.4
Meatballs	$50.6	3	$16.9	Meatballs	$43.0
Hellraiser	$48.5	4	$12.1	Hellraiser	$14.6
Universal Soldier	$47.0	3	$15.7	Universal Soldier	$36.3
Highlander	$46.6	4	$11.6	Highlander 2	$15.6
Fright Night	$46.2	3	$15.4	Fright Night	$24.9
3 Ninjas	$41.6	4	$10.4	3 Ninjas	$29.0
Missing in Action	$39.8	3	$13.3	Missing in Action	$22.8
The Neverending Story	$37.5	2	$18.8	The Neverending Story	$20.2
Iron Eagle	$37.2	3	$12.4	Iron Eagle	$24.2
Care Bears	$34.1	3	$11.4	The Care Bears Movie	$22.9
Return of the Living Dead	$23.5	3	$7.8	Return of the Living Dead	$14.2
Millennium	$22.9	3	$7.6	The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo	$10.1
Evil Dead	$19.8	3	$6.6	Army of Darkness	$11.5
American Ninja	$15.8	4	$3.9	American Ninja	$10.5
The Work and the Glory	$6.7	3	$2.2	The Work and the Glory	$3.3
Ong Bak	$4.7	3	$1.6	Ong Bak: The Thai Warrior	$4.6
Shiloh	$1.1	2	$533k	Shiloh	$1.0

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 16:01, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

BOM only ranks its franchises by American box office. As you can see, BOM says Star Wars is the number 2 franchise with $1.9 billion, but its worldwide ranking is number 3 with 4.3 billion. Betty Logan (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Adjusted movies

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Rank	Title (click to view)	Studio	Adjusted Gross	Unadjusted Gross	Year^
1	Gone with the Wind	MGM	$1,571,907,200	$198,676,459	1939^
2	Star Wars	Fox	$1,385,770,400	$460,998,007	1977^
3	The Sound of Music	Fox	$1,107,991,600	$158,671,368	1965
4	E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial	Uni.	$1,103,626,700	$435,110,554	1982^
5	Titanic	Par.	$1,053,991,400	$658,672,302	1997^
6	The Ten Commandments	Par.	$1,019,180,000	$65,500,000	1956
7	Jaws	Uni.	$996,453,200	$260,000,000	1975
8	Doctor Zhivago	MGM	$965,773,800	$111,721,910	1965
9	The Exorcist	WB	$860,461,500	$232,906,145	1973^
10	Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs	Dis.	$848,020,000	$184,925,486	1937^
11	101 Dalmatians	Dis.	$777,356,200	$144,880,014	1961^
12	The Empire Strikes Back	Fox	$763,845,400	$290,475,067	1980^
13	Ben-Hur	MGM	$762,440,000	$74,000,000	1959
14	Avatar	Fox	$756,646,000	$760,507,625	2009^
15	Return of the Jedi	Fox	$731,782,200	$309,306,177	1983^
16	Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace	Fox	$702,627,900	$474,544,677	1999^
17	The Lion King	BV	$693,559,200	$422,783,777	1994^
18	The Sting	Uni.	$693,531,400	$156,000,000	1973
19	Raiders of the Lost Ark	Par.	$688,738,400	$248,159,971	1981^
20	Jurassic Park	Uni.	$670,681,400	$357,067,947	1993^
21	The Graduate	AVCO	$665,787,100	$104,945,305	1967^
22	Fantasia	Dis.	$646,078,300	$76,408,097	1941^
23	The Godfather	Par.	$614,017,600	$134,966,411	1972^
24	Forrest Gump	Par.	$611,084,900	$329,694,499	1994
25	Mary Poppins	Dis.	$608,254,500	$102,272,727	1964^
26	Grease	Par.	$598,820,400	$188,755,690	1978^
27	Marvel's The Avengers	BV	$597,256,700	$623,357,910	2012
28	Thunderball	UA	$581,944,000	$63,595,658	1965
29	The Dark Knight	WB	$579,262,700	$534,858,444	2008^
30	The Jungle Book	Dis.	$573,229,700	$141,843,612	1967^
31	Sleeping Beauty	Dis.	$565,419,700	$51,600,000	1959^
32	Shrek 2	DW	$552,776,200	$441,226,247	2004
33	Ghostbusters	Col.	$550,284,200	$238,632,124	1984^
34	Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid	Fox	$548,940,100	$102,308,889	1969
35	Love Story	Par.	$544,585,600	$106,397,186	1970
36	Spider-Man	Sony	$540,591,300	$403,706,375	2002
37	Independence Day	Fox	$538,911,800	$306,169,268	1996^
38	Home Alone	Fox	$526,972,100	$285,761,243	1990
39	Pinocchio	Dis.	$524,397,900	$84,254,167	1940^
40	Cleopatra (1963)	Fox	$522,687,300	$57,777,778	1963
41	Beverly Hills Cop	Par.	$522,427,100	$234,760,478	1984
42	Goldfinger	UA	$515,814,000	$51,081,062	1964
43	Airport	Uni.	$514,345,800	$100,489,151	1970
44	American Graffiti	Uni.	$511,257,100	$115,000,000	1973
45	The Robe	Fox	$509,236,400	$36,000,000	1953
46	Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest	BV	$502,808,700	$423,315,812	2006
47	Around the World in 80 Days	UA	$502,707,700	$42,000,000	1956
48	Bambi	RKO	$495,682,800	$102,247,150	1942^
49	Blazing Saddles	WB	$491,910,100	$119,500,000	1974
50	Batman	WB	$489,786,900	$251,188,924	1989
51	The Bells of St. Mary's	RKO	$488,156,900	$21,333,333	1945
52	The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King	NL	$479,556,900	$377,845,905	2003^
53	Finding Nemo	BV	$479,403,400	$380,812,782	2003^
54	The Towering Inferno	Fox	$477,502,700	$116,000,000	1974
55	Spider-Man 2	Sony	$468,035,100	$373,585,825	2004
56	My Fair Lady	WB	$466,800,000	$72,000,000	1964
57	The Greatest Show on Earth	Par.	$466,800,000	$36,000,000	1952
58	National Lampoon's Animal House	Uni.	$465,946,300	$141,600,000	1978^
59	The Passion of the Christ	NM	$464,503,700	$370,782,930	2004^
60	Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith	Fox	$461,545,300	$380,270,577	2005^
61	Back to the Future	Uni.	$459,414,100	$210,609,762	1985
62	The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers	NL	$449,102,700	$342,551,365	2002^
63	The Dark Knight Rises	WB	$448,139,100	$448,139,099	2012
64	The Sixth Sense	BV	$447,965,600	$293,506,292	1999
65	Superman	WB	$446,246,200	$134,218,018	1978
66	Tootsie	Col.	$442,712,700	$177,200,000	1982
67	Smokey and the Bandit	Uni.	$442,160,200	$126,737,428	1977
68	West Side Story	MGM	$435,448,800	$43,656,822	1961
69	Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone	WB	$435,003,000	$317,575,550	2001
70	Lady and the Tramp	Dis.	$433,617,400	$93,602,326	1955^
71	Close Encounters of the Third Kind	Col.	$432,377,700	$132,088,635	1977^
72	Lawrence of Arabia	Col.	$430,884,000	$44,824,144	1962^
73	The Rocky Horror Picture Show	Fox	$428,440,100	$112,892,319	1975
74	Rocky	UA	$428,211,000	$117,235,147	1976
75	The Best Years of Our Lives	RKO	$427,900,000	$23,650,000	1946
76	The Poseidon Adventure	Fox	$427,137,300	$84,563,118	1972
77	The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring	NL	$426,338,400	$315,544,750	2001^
78	Twister	WB	$425,473,600	$241,721,524	1996
79	Men in Black	Sony	$424,917,700	$250,690,539	1997
80	The Bridge on the River Kwai	Col.	$423,232,000	$27,200,000	1957
81	Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen	P/DW	$419,349,200	$402,111,870	2009
82	It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World	MGM	$419,150,700	$46,332,858	1963
83	Swiss Family Robinson	Dis.	$418,626,200	$40,356,000	1960
84	One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest	UA	$417,672,100	$108,981,275	1975
85	M.A.S.H.	Fox	$417,663,200	$81,600,000	1970
86	Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom	Par.	$416,485,300	$179,870,271	1984
87	Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones	Fox	$415,984,700	$310,676,740	2002^
88	Mrs. Doubtfire	Fox	$409,884,500	$219,195,243	1993
89	Aladdin	BV	$408,001,500	$217,350,219	1992
90	Toy Story 3	BV	$406,130,600	$415,004,880	2010
91	Ghost	Par.	$400,399,400	$217,631,306	1990
92	Duel in the Sun	Selz.	$396,938,800	$20,408,163	1946
93	The Hunger Games	LGF	$395,522,000	$408,010,692	2012
94	Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl	BV	$394,048,400	$305,413,918	2003
95	House of Wax	WB	$393,138,300	$23,750,000	1953
96	Rear Window	Par.	$391,759,900	$36,764,313	1954^
97	The Lost World: Jurassic Park	Uni.	$388,299,400	$229,086,679	1997
98	Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade	Par.	$384,460,300	$197,171,806	1989
99	Spider-Man 3	Sony	$380,553,200	$336,530,303	2007
100	Monsters, Inc.	BV	$379,276,000	$284,363,749	2001^

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 16:14, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Same problem as above. BOM only adjusts the American list; this list is already on Wikipedia at List of highest-grossing films in Canada and the United States. As you can see, it says Gone with the Wind has made $1.5 billion, but as you can see at List_of_highest-grossing_films#Highest-grossing_films_adjusted_for_inflation it has probably made over $3 billion worldwide. Betty Logan (talk) 20:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Should we add company

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 – These were removed as per consensus at Talk:List of highest-grossing films/Archive 2#Company information removal. Betty Logan (talk)

I.E Toy Story 3 Pixar , Walt Disney. Or ET Universal Studios Or Ice Age film seieres Bule Sky 20th century Fox — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 13:13, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

We did have them once but got rid because it was only tangential to the topic. There is a lot of information we could add: studios, budgets, directors etc but adding them would make the tables too wide for smaller screen resolutions. We kept the budgets on the year chart to give the older grosses some context for their success. Betty Logan (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Adjusted movies seieres

Can we add a Adjusted movies seieres list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 19:36, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

It would be great if we could, but we don't have a source for it. Betty Logan (talk) 13:27, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Star Wars Films in Highest Grossing Films List

How come in the highest grossing film list, Episode 4 is just listed as Star Wars but Episode 1 is listed as Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace, and the highest grossing film franchises lists Episode 4 by it's full title. It is also listed by it's full title on the actual Star Wars page. Surely in the highest grossing fims list it should be listed in its full title as Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope Frogkermit (talk) 19:05, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

"Star Wars" is the original release title. The subtitle "Episode IV: A New Hope" was only added when it was re-released. I think the main article is at the later title because Star Wars is about the franchise as a whole. It's been discussed in the past and in the end it was decided to use the original title, because to the average reader it is "Star Wars" rather than "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope". As for the series table, the format is slightly different because you are identifying it within the context of a series; most films in the table are listed just by a subtitle rather than their full title (see Star Trek, Harry Potter etc). Betty Logan (talk) 19:20, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Superman

If the man of steel makes 1billoin you have to inculed it. By mine maths it would make about 1.8 billion in total. Make it the 18th highest gorsset flim series of all time Which is going by this

Film Release date Box office revenue Reference United States Worldwide United States US gross when adjusted for inflation International Worldwide Superman December 15, 1978 December 15, 1978 $134,218,018 $478,254,407 $166,000,000 $300,218,018 [117] Superman II June 19, 1981 December 4, 1980 $108,185,706 $305,157,096 N/A $108,185,706 [118] Superman III June 17, 1983 June 17, 1983 $59,950,623 $139,891,464 N/A $59,950,623 [119] Supergirl November 21, 1984 July 19, 1984 $14,296,438 $31,981,526 N/A $14,296,438 [120] Superman IV: The Quest for Peace July 24, 1987 July 24, 1987 $15,681,020 $32,078,572 N/A $15,681,020 [121] Superman Returns June 28, 2006 June 28, 2006 $200,081,192 $230,664,748 $191,000,000 $391,081,192 [122] $532,412,997 $1,218,027,813 $357,000,000 $889,412,997

By your calculations It has made 1.1 billion. And that would make it 2.1 billion the 13th highest earning film seieres of all time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_(film_series)#Box_office_performance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 12:16, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Judging by the trailer though it looks like an awful film so will probably tank so I don't think it will end up being an issue. It might make enough to get on to the chart, but if it finishes outside of the top 20 we can just cut it back to a top 20. Betty Logan (talk) 13:43, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Wait, what? Why should a given movie's performance dictate how many franchises are included in the list? Evanh2008 ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:46, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Because some franchises have missing data, such as Rocky, Superman and Planet of the Apes. If we don't know all the grosses then we can't rank them properly: either we estimate the data and that's original research, or we miss out the missing grosses and the totals are just plain wrong. It's better for the chart if we cut it off above the problem franchises, which is what we do now, but that might not be possible depending on how Man of Steel performs. Betty Logan (talk) 00:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Flim series that are missing

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 – The international grosses are unknown for these franchises, but using the simple rule of thumb of doubling the domestics grosses doesn't get them anywhere close to qualifying for the chart. Betty Logan (talk) 00:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Here is some film series I want to find out how much they have made dose anyone know. The Muppets. The love bug. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 15:52, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Article Length

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 – This was discussed at Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films/Archive_4#Highest-grossing_franchises_and_film_series where the consensus was to not split. Betty Logan (talk) 00:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Repeatedly the conclusion has been reached to avoid splitting this article in any way. I would like to say I support a split of some nature for several reasons. The first is the article length, not necessarily its size. The size (240K+ bytes) is misleading given the chart intensive nature as well as the lengthy references section. However, the article itself is more than 7K words, which per Wikipedia guidelines would take 20-30 minutes to read through. My second objection is that some sections (specifically High-grossing films by year, Timeline of highest-grossing films, and Highest-grossing franchises and film series) would be split in most other articles. The first two are comparable to a “History of…” page while the latter is really a related topic. I certainly understand that high page views (consistently above 12k daily) are taken strongly into consideration but overall the layout and readability suffers as a consequence of including so much information. My personal preference is to create two new pages, one a History of highest-grossing films and the other a List of highest-grossing film franchises. I just seek renewed consideration for the idea rather than a quick dismissal, and welcome your response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Halophile (talk • contribs) 00:07, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

2013

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 – Gangster Squad has been overtaken. Betty Logan (talk)

Where is 2013 from High-grossing films by year It Is Gangster Squad At $54,446,867 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 18:53, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Hasbro

Is Transformers part of the Hasbro series not Transformers series. We can put both. But we should put Hasbro on the list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 19:05, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Isn't Hasbro just the toy manufacturer? To the best of my knowledge Transformers is the franchise and it is owned by Hasbro, like Disney own the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. Betty Logan (talk) 18:37, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit all new grosses

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Certain new grosses have not been edited whereas certain others have. For example - the new Skyfall total of just over $1.09 billion is correct however the Hobbit's gross has increased by over $9 million since the last entry to a total of $949,203,000. Please rectify this as soon as possible in all corresponding lists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.28.91 (talk) 21:32, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

There is usually a lag in updating between Sunday and Monday. The estimates have been released today, but the actuals don't get released until tomorrow. If it isn't up to date by Tuesday then let us know. Betty Logan (talk) 01:03, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

'Peter Jackson's Middle-earth'

It is my opinion and i think many others that the 1978 version of The Lord of the Rings should not be included in the same Franchise as Peter Jackson's series, it has literally nothing to do with Jackson's series other than the subject matter, different studio, different cast etc, etc, etc. I propose that the section called, J.R.R Tolkien's Middle-earth' be renamed 'Peter Jackson's Middle-earth' so as to emphasis that the franchise in question is the Jackson Directed series. It should encompass 4 films, with an average of $964 million, not 5 films with an average of just under $800 million. It is if anything; misinformation.

If this change is impossible then i would like to know why The Lord of the Rings (1978) is in with the Jackson series, which is a Franchise in and of itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.28.91 (talk) 11:06, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

The 1978 film isn't in with the Peter Jackson series. If you expand the Tolkien entry you will see it has two entries: the Peter Jackson series and the 1978 film i.e. they are listed separately. If you expand the Peter jackson entry it then shows the three LOTR films and The Hobbit, but not the 1978 film. Betty Logan (talk) 18:32, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for responding, i am and was aware that within the section was found the Peter Jackson series but this is not the point, the point is there is no such film franchise as Tolkien's Middle-earth. There is however a Middle-earth franchise as directed by Peter Jackson. The 1978 Lord of the rings is not part of any franchise, it is a singular feature. Jackson's films are part of a franchise in and of themselves and this should be recognized. It is incorrect to put the two together. While they are founded on the same subject matter that is all they share. I again request that there be a Peter Jackson's Middle-earth section, that properly and accurately reflects the Franchise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.28.91 (talk) 21:41, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

As to whether or not the 1978 film is part of the franchise or not, the source we use, Box Office Mojo, would disagree with you. It is in fact correct to put this film with Peter Jackson's films as a film franchise is the "licensing of intellectual property of an original work of media." You are confusing the term film franchise, with film series. You'll notice that the Tolkien's Middle Earth franchise entry expands to show the 1978 film as separate to Peter Jackson's film series, with the average of Peter Jackson's series listed in all its glory. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 22:58, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. It is clear to me now why it is in there and i thank you for that. It still does however feel incorrect and as though there is a lot of things jumbled into different "franchises". As for the "average of Peter Jackson's series listed in all its glory" - i can't see the average in "all it's glory" because the total for An Unexpected Journey is out by $10,000,000. It currently reads "$939,548,000" where it as should read $949,203,000 as is consistent and correct with the source we use Box Office Mojo.

I won't reiterate what the professor has stated above, but there is a "Middle-Earth" franchise, or at the very least there is a "Lord of the Rings" franchise" to which all Lord of the Rings adaptations belong. You cannot just go out and make a Lord of the Rings film without the required licensing, since all LOTR films are made from the same intellectual property. The Peter Jackson series is not a franchise, it is one instance of an independently produced series in a franchise that includes multiple adaptations across multiple media. Batman is similar: Batman is a franchise that includes comics, multiple independent adaptations and merchandise. We could just have a chart of each independent series, but that would mean separating the Batman films, separating the Spider-Man films etc, but the chart does this anyway, because you can just expand the entries. The article retains a neutral point of view on what data we present, since readers may be just as interested in the collective value of the whole Batman franchise as opposed to just one series in it; on the other hand, they must just be interested in the Nolan series. Either way it doesn't matter because both sets of data are given. Likewise with the Middle Earth films, the reader has access to how much the franchise has earned as a whole, how much the Jackson series has earned as a whole, and how much just the LOTR trilogy within the Jackson series has earned as a whole. It covers all possible ways a reader might want to interpret the information. As for the information being out of date, there is usually a short lag between Sunday-Monday as the data is released and then update in the chart. Betty Logan (talk) 00:24, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again to both of you for clearing it up very helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.28.91 (talk) 14:05, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

here are the odds for higest grossing flim of 2013

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 – WP:CRYSTAL Betty Logan (talk)

Iron man 3 7/13 G.I Joe 2 6/34 star trek 12 6/9 Fast and furiouse 6 8/45 man of steel 8/21 Monster Universtiy 1/3 Hobbit 2 4/7 Despicable Me 2 6/98 hangover 3 7/32 Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters 23/72 The Snurfs 2 6/32 flims with 1 billon 1 = 4/8 2= 2/4 3= 1/2 4= 6/9 5=12/20 6=24/34 7=54/67 8=65/79 9=34/87 10=65/91 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 15:25, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Main page

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The list is scheduled as the main page feature on February 25. Please make sure it is as much up to date as possible by Sunday evening. There will probably be an increase in vandalism on Monday too, so keep an eye on it. If there are any disagreements/disputes about content, please stick with the status quo until Tuesday so the article is stable while on the main page. Betty Logan (talk) 12:09, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Main page

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The list is scheduled as the main page feature on February 25. Please make sure it is as much up to date as possible by Sunday evening. There will probably be an increase in vandalism on Monday too, so keep an eye on it. If there are any disagreements/disputes about content, please stick with the status quo until Tuesday so the article is stable while on the main page. Betty Logan (talk) 12:09, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

2013

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 – It is Die Hard. You can verify this by checking source 31. Betty Logan (talk)

On the highest grossing film by year list 2013 is left out. The highest grossing movie this year is mama with $1 049.7 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.93.116 (talk) 05:33, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I said it once, I said it 2 times and I will say it agin Where is your year. It is now Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters $151,939,737 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 17:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Once agin I say it where this year It is now Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters At $152,200,090 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 16:21, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't think there is much point adding it to the chart, since Die Hard 5 is probably going to overtake it this weekend. Betty Logan (talk) 12:09, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

identify theif is acullaty the highest grossing not a good day to die hard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.242.242 (talk) 23:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

It is die hard. Identity thief is 5th — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 16:48, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

No one has put 2013 up on the yearly list it is identify thief — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.242.242 (talk) 05:02, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Can u reed? It is up it die harder a north day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 17:30, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Can you spell? Frogkermit (talk) 23:16, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I guess I'm confused. 2013 has been up there for a while now. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 00:47, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

The name is?

Is the James Bond flim series called James Bond I thought it was Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia has its own policy for naming articles, which you can read at WP:COMMONNAME. While this technically only applies to article names, we use the names that are chosen by the article editors so readers will not be confused. Betty Logan (talk) 22:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Spelling and incorrect wording

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Many times within the article the word theatre is incorrectly spelt theater . Also there are many mentions of theatrical along with these of theatre which are incorrectly placed as a theatre is a place where plays are performed and this is a list of movies which are displayed at a cinema and are cinematical . Could someone please correct these obvious mistakes. Thanks

The article is written in American English which uses theater/theatrical as opposes to cinema/cinematic. Incidentally "theatre" is spelt "theater" in American English. Betty Logan (talk) 06:24, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Skyfall gross

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Re the total gross os $1,018Billion for Skyfall: Please correct me here if I am wrong as this is the first time I have used the Talk page. I have noticesd that the total gross for Skyfall has remained unchanged at 1,018B for the last 3 weeks, and yet the film is still currently showing at cinemas throughout the world. The Hobbit on ther other hand, has shown gross increases during thata period. Now I realise that The Hobbit is a more recent release, but surely the takings from the still-showing Skyfall are not so minimal that the total gross could not be upgraded in the last three week period. I would be grateful for any enlightenment provided. Thank you. AkiraK1 (talk) 05:23, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

According to the access date on the Skyfall reference it was last updated on March 8th. Skyfall's gross on February 16 stood at $1,100 million (you can view the old chart here). So it is still being updated, but it isn't going up so fast now. Also, for future reference, you can start a new discussion on the talk page by pressing "new section" at the top of the page. Betty Logan (talk) 06:24, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Pre 1915

How about before 1915? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 16:42, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

1913 Traffic in Souls $430,000 1914 The Million Dollar Mystery $1,500,000

This is how far the list can go. No data for flims relase before 1913. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 17:13, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

The problem with films of this era is that they were distributed on a "states rights" basis to local distributors, so their earnings were impossible to track. The first film to have a full nationwide distribution (in the US) was Quo Vadis, and that was followed by Cabiria in 1914: these two films are generally accepted to be the world's first two blockbusters, and Cabiria is generally regarded to be the highest-grossing until it was displaced by The Birth of a Nation. The problem though is that there are no reliable figures for their earnings. The first blockbuster that we have reliable figures for (at least to some degree) is Birth of a Nation, so I don't think it is worth going back further than that. Betty Logan (talk) 02:25, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Die hard franchise

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Where is die hard franchise It has made 1,353,529,096 That makes 26th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 19:30, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

yes that is true but the chart is for the top 25 film franchise not top 26 Redsky89 (talk) 04:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Probably a fair bet that it will end up in the top 25, at least for a while, so keep your quills ready. Ordinary Person (talk) 14:00, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

007

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 – Skyfall has closed

Is Skyfall in or out? On highest goriest films it says it still in. On flim seres it says it is out. What one is it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 16:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Highest goresting flim series and franchise

What I think we sholud do.

Highest-grossing franchises and film series

Prior to 2000, only seven series had grossed over $1 billion at the box office: James Bond,[73] Star Wars,[74] Indiana Jones,[75] Rocky,[76][77][78] Batman,[79] Jurassic Park[80] and Star Trek.[81] Since the turn of the century that number has increased to over thirty;[82] this is partly due to inflation and market growth, but also to Hollywood's adoption of the franchise model: films that have built-in brand recognition, such as being based on a well known literary source (The Lord of the Rings) or an established character (Indiana Jones). The methodology is based on the concept that films associated with things audiences are already familiar with can be more effectively marketed to them, and as such are known as "pre-sold" films within the industry.[23] The Harry Potter series has grossed the most, amassing nearly $8 billion over eight films at the box office, although the EON James Bond series is the highest grossing when adjusted for inflation, with a total of over $13 billion at 2011/12 prices.[83] If ancillary income from merchandising is included, then Star Wars is the most lucrative franchise, earning more than $22 billion in total, with direct income from the films themselves accounting for just one third of overall revenues.[84][9] At constant prices the live-action Star Wars films are also the most consistent performers, earning on average more per film than any other series,[23] while Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings trilogy is the nominal record-holder, averaging at about $970 million with each film earning in excess of $870 million.
Background shading indicates that at least one film in the series is playing in the week commencing 22 March 2013 in theaters around the world.

Highest-grossing franchises and film series[§]

(The films in each franchise can be viewed by selecting "show")

Rank Series Total worldwide

box office No. of films Average of films Highest-grossing film

1 [show]Harry Potter $7,706,147,978 8 $963,268,497 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 ($1,328,111,219)

2 [show]James Bond $6,159,388,878 25 $246,375,555 Skyfall ($1,108,348,855)

3 [show]Star Wars $4,382,359,868 7 $626,051,410 Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace ($1,027,044,427)

4 [show]Tolkien's Middle-Earth $3,962,071,397 5 $792,414,279 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King ($1,119,929,521)

5 [show]Marvel Cinematic Universe $3,802,227,995 6 $633,704,666 The Avengers ($1,511,757,910)

6 [show]Pirates of the Caribbean $3,727,735,967 4 $931,933,992 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest ($1,066,179,725)

7 [show]Batman $3,718,343,339 8 $464,792,917 The Dark Knight Rises ($1,081,041,287)

8 [show]Shrek $3,510,516,231 5 $702,103,246 Shrek 2 ($919,838,758)

9 [show]The Twilight Saga $3,344,717,264 5 $668,943,453 The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2 ($829,224,737)

10 [show]Spider-Man $3,248,563,075 4 $812,140,769 Spider-Man 3 ($890,871,626)

11 [show]Ice Age $2,802,576,893 4 $700,644,223 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs ($886,686,817)

12 [show]Transformers $2,675,610,116 4 $668,902,529 Transformers: Dark of the Moon ($1,123,746,996)

13 [show]Mission: Impossible $2,096,647,856 4 $524,161,964 Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol ($694,713,380)

14 [show]Indiana Jones $1,983,841,081 4 $495,960,270 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull ($786,636,033)

15 [show]Toy Story $1,948,143,626 3 $649,381,209 Toy Story 3 ($1,063,171,911)

16 [show]Jurassic Park $1,902,110,926 3 $634,036,975 Jurassic Park ($914,691,118)

17 [show]X-Men $1,890,097,619 5 $378,019,524 X-Men: The Last Stand ($459,359,555)

18 [show]Madagascar $1,878,691,276 3 $626,230,425 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted ($742,110,251)

19 [show]Men in Black $1,655,236,118 3 $551,745,373 Men in Black 3 ($624,026,776)

20 [show]The Matrix $1,632,989,142 3 $544,329,714 The Matrix Reloaded ($742,128,461)

21 [show]The Fast and the Furious $1,591,404,818 5 $318,280,964 Fast Five ($626,137,675)

22 [show]The Chronicles of Narnia $1,580,364,900 3 $526,788,300 The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe ($745,013,115)

23 [show]Star Trek $1,463,693,272 11 $133,063,025 Star Trek ($385,680,446)

24 [show]The Mummy $1,415,408,499 4 $353,852,125 The Mummy Returns ($433,013,274)

25 [show]Terminator $1,402,938,658 4 $350,734,665 Terminator 2: Judgment Day ($519,843,345)

26 die hard 5 flims $1,396,162,826 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 19:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

the 50 highest grossing film franchises as adjusted for inflation

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This site answer the question. http://m.sporcle.com/games/Vitarai/50-top-grossing-film-franchises — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 13:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, first, Sporkle isn't a reliable source, it's just a game; secondly, it charts domestic grosses and we document worldwide grosses. Betty Logan (talk) 20:10, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

BFI

I think we should says that 3 of the top 5 highest. Goresting flim series are britsh (Harry potter, James Bond, and middle earth) are britsh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 15:29, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Well technically only the early James Bond films were completely British (up until Harry Saltzman sold his share to United Artists in the 70s). Harry Potter is a UK-US co-production and the Peter Jackson Middle-earth films are New Zealand-US films (just based on Brtish books). The purpose of this list isn't really to document production background, readers can get that from the film articles, we are just tabulating box office sales, and it's best to stay focused on that aspect. I appreciate your enthusiasm but in a sense this list is structurally "complete", that's why it is FA rated; what we need to do as editors is keep it up to date, correct erroneous data when mistakes are discovered, and track down missing data. Betty Logan (talk) 20:19, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Lowest grossing

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Can we add a lowest grossing movies? You can also count lost as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 18:03, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Well no, this article is about the top grossers not the lowest. If you want to create a list of "lowest-grossing" films you will need to start a new article for that; however there is a list of box office bombs. Betty Logan (talk) 18:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Alien Predator Franchise

Based on grossings already posted to wikipedia, The Alien vs Predator franchise has grossed $1,543,719,434 making it higher grossing than The Mummy which is currently 25th on the list. Why is MCU considered a franchise while AVP is not, or Freddy vs Jason at that. They created multiple series of movies, then combined them with a crossover. It seems like the same thing to me.99.58.172.195 (talk) 04:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Upon further research I discovered that the Freddy / Jason franchise has not grossed nearly as much as The Mummy99.58.172.195 (talk) 04:18, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, it seems like the same thing to us too. If it were up to us, we'd probably include an Alien vs Predator crossover franchise to the list, to keep it consistent. However, that would be original research, which isn't how Wikipedia works. We need to find sources for the information we post, and that goes for tables too. So, our Highest-grossing franchises table is modelled off the franchises chart at Box Office Mojo. And although that seems to be the most reliable list of grosses for film franchises, there is an inconsistency in they way they handle crossovers.

• MCU: They consider it a crossover-franchise that covers all of the movies. And they have individual character franchises that contain only individual character films.
• Alien vs Predator: They don't consider it a crossover-franchise, so they don't list it. But they include the Alien vs Predator films in both the Alien franchise and the Predator franchise.

So, this leaves us with two options: 1) Try and find a different site that doesn't have this inconsistency or 2) Try and change the Box Office Mojo site, so that it is consistent. The first one hasn't been successful, and I believe Betty Logan's working on the second one. How's that going, Betty? --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 06:49, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

It's a good point, and one that has been discussed before. BOM ignored my email about it, but you can rationalize it from a series point of view anyway. It's only confusing when you think of them in terms of franchises, which the MCU isn't really: it's a cross-franchise series in which the films are interconnected by design: only films that form part of this series are included. For this reason the 2003 Hulk film is omitted, because it was produced independently of the MCU. Similarly, the original and Alien and Predator films were also produced independently of each other, so they are clearly not part of the same series like the MCU films, since they don't follow on from each other in any consistent way. You can perhaps argue that the two AvP films form a series with the other Alien films, or that they form a series with the Predator films, but the earlier Alien and Predator films don't form a series with each other i.e. The Alien franchise is Alien 1-3 and Prometheus; the Predator franchise is Predator 1-3. In series terms the Alien series can be defined as Alien 1-3, Alien 1-3 + Prometheus, or Alien 1-3 + AvP 1&2 + Prometheus. Likewise, the Predator series can be Predator 1-3 or Predator 1-3 + AvP 1&2. Franchises are easy to define: they are intellectual property; series less so, since they depend on in universe continuity, production background etc. I will be honest though, I've never been completely happy with having the MCU in the chart since it is the only entry where the "top level" is a series rather than franchise, but we mainly include it because Box Office Mojo do. Betty Logan (talk) 07:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Jurassic park 1

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 – Highlighting added.

On highest gorrest movies it says it back in. ( I thought it was June ) On highest by year it says it out. and on series it says it is out. What is it than. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 11:36, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Tickets sold?

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Maybe this is the wrong place to ask this but as a European we are intrested on how many people bought the ticket. Box office revenue tells nothing and you can't comapre the numbers. So for North America are statistics available about how many people saw th filmin theatres? Just curious...--Nedergard (talk) 19:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Ticket sales would be a much better method (especially in these 3D times), but not all countries track them. France for instance does, the US doesn't. The problem is explained in the third paragraph of the inflation section. The best solution we have is the inflation list which has to be said does seems to be a pretty good representation of the 20th century. The Lumiere database collects admissions across the European Union and estimates them for the United States (for example, see Avatar admissions), and it's the best resource I've come across. Unfortunately it only goes back to 1996 so doesn't films like Gone with the Wind or Star Wars in there. Betty Logan (talk) 20:10, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Like you say, it is indeed a problem with no solution in sight. I was just wishing ;) Thanks for the Lumiere tip - it was new to me (although I have used their excellent and concise yearly reports on world film industry (see [1] - treasure trove for the "Year in film" articles). Thanks anyway. You may consider discussion resolved.--Nedergard (talk) 19:01, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Batman franchise

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 – Added with source. Betty Logan (talk)

The are some films missing from the franchise Which is Batman (1966 flim) 1.7 million Making franchise 9 films long. And a total of 3,719,350,339 But a it still 7th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 19:29, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

We would add data for the 1966 film if we could source it, but unfortunately Box Office Mojo doesn't list it. Betty Logan (talk) 07:18, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I just find this

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http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/why-avatar-is-not-the-top-grossing-film/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 19:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Nice find. I've added it to our inflation section. Betty Logan (talk) 20:51, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Back 2 the future

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 – The series earned less than a billion. Betty Logan (talk)

Surely Back 2 the future should be on the film series list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

BETTY LOAGAN

WHY DOES BETTY LOAGAN GET TO MAKE ALL CHANGES TO THE PAGE HUH. I HINK ALL WIKIPEDIA USER SHOULD START A REBELION AND OVER THROW THIS DICTATOR SHIP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.240.59 (talk) 23:36, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha... Well, Betty Logan isn't the only one to edit this page. There are plenty of other users contributing to the page... But in order to edit the page, you have to have an autoconfirmed user account (that is, an account that you've been using for a while). If you don't have that though, and you would like to make edits to the page, then suggest those edits here, and we can discuss them with you. It's certainly not a dictatorship, because you potentially have a say in what changes are made to the page. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 23:52, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Ding dong the witch is dead! Betty Logan (talk) 00:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

DCU

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The man of steel is going to be the frist film in the DC universe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 16:20, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

We don't know that for sure yet, but even if it is, we won't create a DC universe section until there's more than one film to make it a "series" or "franchise". --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 23:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Batman

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As thier is no knowledge of batman 66 flim should we says box offie may not be right — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 15:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Apparently Variety has a listing for the US net, so I've added it in. It's not perfect though since the worldwide gross is usually 3-4 times the US net, but as you can see from the chart its impact is virtually negligible. It won't come into play unless a franchise finishes within 5 million of the Batman franchise. Betty Logan (talk) 03:23, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

2 parts

When a film series has two parts should we gourp them as 1. For example

1 [hide]Harry Potter $7,706,147,978 1 deathly hallows. $2,274,400 ,930 1 Deathly Hallows – Part 2 $1,328,111,219 2 Deathly Hallows – Part 1 $956,399,711 2 Philosopher's Stone $974,755,371 3 Order of the Phoenix $939,885,929 4. Half-Blood Prince $934,416,487 5 Goblet of Fire $896,911,078 6 Chamber of Secrets $878,979,634 7 Prisoner of Azkaban $796,688,549 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 16:46, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I think treating two-part adaptations as a self-contained series may be a bit excessive. It's not that uncommon these days, and it would meaning converting the whole franchise into a list of single entry-films which implies a discontinuity between entries. The only series we break up in this manner are the Bond films (where we group the films of each actor) and the Star Trek films (where we group the films by each production line). Betty Logan (talk) 18:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Problems with other highest grossing list.

There are promble with a list similar to this which we (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_animated_films) are having prombles with this is a list of just 3 of those. 1) they only do GCI film franchise. (Missing franchise as Pokemon) 2) dose not update (monter inc has gone up to $562,675,279) from $562,566,455 3) it is only top 11, odd number. The list is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_grossing_computer-animated_film_franchises — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 18:21, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

• I agree the scope is very limited by just covering CGI franchises, but that is the name of the article. I agree that the article would benefit from extending it to cover all animated franchises but that would essentially require starting a new article.
• Is the Pokemon franchise computer animated?
• Both those lists are unprotected which means that anyone can upate them, including you. While it is considered good manners to discuss changes to the list first, you certainly don't need to ask for permission to update the list. You should be able to update either of those lists yourself by clicking "edit this page" at the top.
• 11 is an odd number, but it may well be the case there are only 11 CGI franchises. Is there any that are missing that are definitely CGI? Betty Logan (talk) 19:20, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

No of films

Should we add a list of highest grossing by no of films. 1 film 2 films 3 films 4 films 5 films 6 films 7 films 8 films 9 films 10 films And so on upto Wong Fei - hung which got 89 films. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 11:05, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

While it may make for an interesting comparison, there isn't really the space to do it in this article. Betty Logan (talk) 18:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

No of films part 2

In your reply at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films#No_of_films? You said. "While it may make for an interesting comparison, there isn't really the space to do it in this article." So can we make a article about this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 15:32, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Anyone can create an article about any notable subject. You can build it in your sandbox at User talk:77.98.167.114/sandbox and then submit it to article space. Betty Logan (talk) 16:27, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Toy park

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 – Order corrected

On Highest-grossing franchises and film series It has toy story as 15 [show]Toy Story $1,948,143,626 3 $649,381,209 Toy Story 3 ($1,063,171,911) And Jurassic park as 16 [show]Jurassic Park $1,948,196,755 3 $649,398,918 Jurassic Park ($960,776,947) So Jurassic Park has over taken toy story. And so has been crown the highest grossing trilogies of all time. ( that is upto when JP4 is out next year) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 12:26, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree. It clearly states that Jurassic Park has about 50,000 more dollars than Toy Story. Someone needs to sort it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TBWarrior720 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Scorpion King sequels missing from the Mummy franchise

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Is there some good reason why the two sequels to Scorpion King aren't listed on the Mummy franchise? Even if they weren't that successful they should be listed to make the numbers correct. --80.221.232.254 (talk) 13:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

I believe the two sequels were direct-to-video, so there are no theatrical box office earnings (the focus of this list) to show for these. Erik (talk | contribs) 13:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

jurassic park

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the movie Jurassic park is still in 18 place though box office mojo says it's in 17 place please change that — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.240.59 (talk) 11:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)  Done

Top 100 films

The domestic gross films show the top 100. Do you think it can show the top 100 highest-grossing films? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.6.104.39 (talk) 17:27, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Some editors would prefer to extend it while some would prefer to reduce it so we've more or less settled on 50. It would add a lot of films to an already large list and it wouldn't really add that much encylopedic value: the year's top films from the last decade (in fact since 2001) all penetrate the top 30. Extending it to a top 100 would add the year toppers from 2000 and 1998 to the list, but since they are ranked 90-100 they would drop off the chart in a year or so anyway. Betty Logan (talk) 18:14, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Long time ago, they did top 100; the site was on Box Office Mojo where you start at the first 100. (See if they can think about it.) Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.6.104.39 (talk)

I think we should include only movies that grossed at least $1 billion. Boxofficegeek (talk) 22:11, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I do too, since the $1 billion threshold is really the new target for a proper blockbuster film. It would be quite anomalous for a year not to produce a billion dollar hit these days. Seems like a sensible cut-off figure. After all, what are the chances of someone looking up the 30th highest grossing film? Betty Logan (talk) 23:15, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Top-50 seems reasonable to me. $1 billion would only allow 15 films at the moment, making it one of the shortest lists on the page. A cut-off at a fixed amount will mean the size of the list grows (at least until we decide the list is too long and increase the cut-off). A top-X with fixed X is more consistent. Few people will ask "What is the 30th highest grossing film?", but many people will look at a longer list to compare more films or find films they have an interest in. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

It seems to me there are those of us who would make it shorter and those who would increase it, so 50 does somewhat fall between the two camps. We've have these discussions before and there is never a consensus either way, so it has always stuck at 50 for better or worse. Betty Logan (talk) 23:38, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Man of Steel

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The new MOS you said this "Yeah, if Man of Steel doesn't get it there, sooner or later a sequel or reboot will follow. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 10:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)"

The one out this year is the first in a trilogy.

Like Noal BatMan.

It is also the first in th eDC Universe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 16:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Some stats

Here are some interesting stats for the list:

• 2008: 802,000 hits
• 2009: 1.44 million hits
• 2010: 3.76 million hits
• January 2010 (record month): 1.13 million hits
• January 27, 2010 (record day): 100,000 hits
• 2011: 3.49 million hits
• 2012: 4.64 million hits
• 2013 (first 4 months): 1.4 million hits (we hadn't even cracked a million at the same time last year)
• May 2013: Currently averaging at 10,000 hits per day (on average a page view every 9 seconds)

Betty Logan (talk) 11:50, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

That's crazy! --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 12:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I think most of those hits are me, I check this page all the time. But how do you knw how many hits an article has? TBWarrior720 (talk) 12:20, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

If you click on one of the blue stat links it will take you to Wikipedia's article tracker: http://stats-classic.grok.se/en/2013/List_of_highest-grossing_films. To get the stats for other articles just type in another article name. Betty Logan (talk) 05:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

26?

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Where terminator gone to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 20:56, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

It was replaced by Die Hard. Betty Logan (talk) 20:08, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Um... not sure if this is really "resolved". Terminator could be considered as being replaced by a 2nd Iron Man listing. - thewolfchild 02:12, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Middle what?

• Can we do anything better for the LOTR film series than just plain "Middle Earth"?
• Shouldn't all six Peter Jackson films be listed together?
• And can someone explain why the 1978 animated film is included?
• And if you're gonna include the cartoons, then include all or none?

Please make sense of this. Thanks. - thewolfchild 22:19, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

2 of the cartoons were tv specials, so the only one actually shown in cinemas is listed here, as this is a list of cinema grosses. It is included here because it is based on the same series, so is in the franchise, and was released in cinemas. An unexpected journey is included under the Peter Jackson banner, just not under the Lord of the Rings banner, as it is a seperate trilogy. When the Desolation of Smaug is released, i expect that both of these will be included under The hobbit banner, which will be a sub-banner of the Peter Jackson series, just like The Lord of the Rings one. Frogkermit (talk) 23:21, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Frog. What about the name? Can't we come up with something better for recognition than "Tolkien's Middle Earth"?

I don't really think we can just call it The Lordof the Rings, as this kin of alienates The Hobbit trilogy. I think the point of calling it Tolkien's Midle Earth is that Toliken is a reasonably well know brand, but middle earth is lesser. The reason it's called middle earth is because that it is the world in which all the films are set, like the marvel cinematic universe, so it is the most obvious naming of grouping them. I know, it isn't ideal, but it seems to be the best solution we've got at the momment. Frogkermit (talk) 02:30, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

"Middle-Earth" is generally how it seems to be collectively referred to: Tolkien's middle earth & Middle-earth Universe series; however, the main reason we go with this title is simply because that is the title selected for the Wikipedia page on the subject: Middle-earth in film. If they changed the title we would probably follow suit. Betty Logan (talk) 09:01, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes

In reply to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films#2_halves_.3D_1_whole_.2F_2_parts_.3D_1_movie.3F

Form http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_films#2_parts

Yes that. What I mean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 17:23, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

2 halves = 1 whole / 2 parts = 1 movie?

Not sure if this is what the editor was getting at above, or if this has been covered before, but with movies such as HP: Deathly Hallows and Twilight: Breaking Dawn, couldn't parts 1 & 2 be considered as a single film? Thereby creating a single entry in the table with combined gosses such as;

• (#2) Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows (parts 1&2)...- $2,301,794,524
• (#4) Twilight: Breaking Dawn (parts 1&2).........................- $1,541,857,233

Just Wondering... - thewolfchild 22:04, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

It isn't technically possible to do. The way the templates work would require us to create a separate series entry just for two films, which would then make it look like they were not part of the same series i.e. we would have to break up the entry into two series which would look odd. Betty Logan (talk) 09:06, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Plus, those examles were released as two separate films, so it makes sense to keep them that way. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 16:38, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Also, there are other franchises such as The Hangover that classify each movie s Part 1 Part 2 etTBWarrior720 (talk) 19:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Superman franchise could be number one on list

People seem to be freaking out about how Man of Steel could launch Superman into the top 25 franchises. The reaso for this being that we dn't know how much Superman II and Superman III grossed internationally. But, if we don't know how well they grossed internationally, this franchise could already be in the top 25. In fact, Superman two and three could have grossed several billion each overseas, making the franchise higher grossing then Harry Potter. While this is not likely the case, we don't actually know when Superman has breeched the top 25. This is one more reason to include Superman on the list and just put an asterisk on the bottom of the chart. TBWarrior720 (talk) 19:47, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Are you on Twitter? You could ask Alex Ben Block for the worldwide totals; he's written several books on film box office in the 70s and 80s, so if the data is known he will have it. Basically we need the unadjusted worldwide totals for Superman 2, 3 & 4 and Supergirl. It's worth a shot. If he tweets back the figures we can link to it and use it as a source. If we could actually get the data it would be the best outcome. Betty Logan (talk) 01:11, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I do not have a twitter but I did find out that Man of Steel needs to make about 544 million dollars in order to break the top 25 just counting domestic gross of these four movies.69.106.153.159 (talk) 21:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I have a twitter (that I rarely use). You don't mind if I ask, Betty Logan? Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 23:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Sure, go for it!. We may luck out. Betty Logan (talk) 18:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Spider missing

There is a flim missing for spider man series. It was relase in 1977.. Over sea's. But I have no ideal on the performers. It called spider man strikes back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Are you talking about this? If so then I don't think a televison movie should count box office wise. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 14:38, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Spidy

The film premiered on CBS on September 14, 1977. It was later shown theatrically overseas. It was then released on VHS in 1980. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 15:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh ok. Got you. I am not sure it's easy knowing the gross though. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 13:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Tim_Burton_/_Joel_Schumacher

Should we sprated Tim_Burton_/_Joel_Schumacher — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

The hangover part II

It is at 1.2 billion. Not near the top 25. So SuperMan can still out gross it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 15:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

The hobbirt

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 – Closed April 25. Raise the issue on the other list. Betty Logan (talk)

It says it not in cinima on this page but. On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films_in_the_United_Kingdom It says it still in. And at £51,994,544. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 12:54, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Watch out iron man superman behind you.

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 – Product tie-ins do not count towards box-office. Betty Logan (talk)

I think u should read this. http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/man-of-steel-almost-recoups-budget-before-it-s-even-released-100906092.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 14:09, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Movies that are not playing in theaters anymore.

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Top Gun 3D is not playing anymore so you can unhighlight it. And Live Free of Die Hard is not needed to be highlighted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.6.124.240 (talk) 19:10, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

D Day

Has he replay yet. Because Man Of Steel is out tomorrow. And it could have a massive opening weekend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 19:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Kal'el

Betty stated in an above section that if Superman were to breach the top 25 franchises, we would have to cut it down to 20 or some other number. Her reasoning for that is that we don't have complete data on the Superman Franchise. I have no idea what she is reffering to. The articles for the four main Superman movies each give a clear distinct number for how much they grossed, as does Supergirl and Superman Returns. Superman II the Richard Donner Cut went straight to DVD and Superman and the Mole Men was only on TV. Even if there was some confusion, couldn't we just follow what it says on Box Office Mojo? TBWarrior720 (talk) 20:34, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

This is a list of worldwide grosses: we know the worldwide gross for Superman 1 and Superman Returns, but not for Superman 2, 3 & 4 where only the US grosses are known. This happens with two other franchises that earned over a billion: Planet of the Apes and Rocky. Using the domestic:foreign ratios that were common at the time we can deduce that they all made 1.0-1.3 billion, and Superman 1.0-1.1 billion. Preferably we would list all the 1 billion dollar franchises, but we can't do that unless we find the foreign grosses for those franchises, which is why we make sure the chart stays above 1.3 billion. Superman is almost certainly going to penetrate the chart as it stands, which will make it inaccurate. Since Star Trek and Fast & Furious will penetrate the top 20 that would set the top 20 threshold at about 1.9 billion, which means Man of Steel would need to make at least 800 million to place in the top 20, so the simplest solution is to just reduce the chart to 20 films and then we can have a fully accurate chart. In the unlikely event it makes a billion then we'd need to rethink it, but it's not worth the hassle just for five franchises. Betty Logan (talk) 21:17, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

I have a better idea. We start a huge boycott of plannet of the apes, superman, and rocky in order to raise money. Then if we make enough money, we can buy the franchises and never use them.68.123.7.0 (talk) 04:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

We got a problem here then. Superman can easily find itself in the top 20's. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 04:56, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, if Man of Steel doesn't get it there, sooner or later a sequel or reboot will follow. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 10:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

For real, everybody here should swear never to see those movies in theatres. But what if it doesn't work. What if Superman does so well that they make another one and he gets to the top 10? Are we just going to abandon the list entirely? And what is our obsession with numbers divisible by five. If Superman gets to the 24th spot, why not just cut it down to the top 23? I saw we just estimate the missing data (find a reliable source that does the estimating for us so we don't use original research) or disclude the missing data entirely, then we just slap a disclaimer on the bottom of the chart saying that Superman is missing a bit of data or might not be accurate. Also, what the hell was going on over seas in the 80's that they couldn't count the tickets like they did in 1978?TBWarrior720 (talk) 11:05, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

• Hopefully it will flop, that will serve them right for trying to screw up my chart! Betty Logan (talk) 11:32, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha... Yeah, screw them. But seriously, I can't not see it. I'm way too excited for that. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 12:15, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Why not just make the cutoff 1.5 billion. If there is some uncertainty due to incomplete overseas figures, stick a footnote on it.Ordinary Person (talk) 14:32, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

PS, if its opening weekend is anything to go by, they could well be looking at 800 million plus for MoSOrdinary Person (talk) 14:34, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

There are several options and that is one of them, but we can re-evaluate it in the Fall when we know exactly where the series places. I possibly have a lead on the world totals so it may not be an issue for much longer. Betty Logan (talk) 17:28, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

ABB

Could we ask https://mobile.twitter.com/abblock for all the worldwide totals of franchises we do not know — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 18:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Already been done. Now we just have to wait on a reply. :) Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 19:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

It's been over two weeks and no reply? We should ask again. Also, it turns out that Spider-Man has an extra little movie that nobody knows the gross of. I couldn't help but notice that the list wasn't shaved down to the top nine. Maybe we should be consistent and just ignore the overseas gross for those pesky Super-Man movies too.TBWarrior720 (talk) 16:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Yep. I asked him. No reply last time I checked. Does anyone else have a twitter? Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 18:59, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Aren't tweets supposed to show up in his message stream? No question seems to have come up in his message stream, so he may not realize. Betty Logan (talk) 19:13, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. It was supposed to. I put in @abblock on it. I would have linked it but right now I can't seem to remember both the password of twitter or my hotmail (that I was using to sign in to it). The only place I have that I am already signed in at is on it's app. But I can't figure out copying the link on the apple app. :/ Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 19:47, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Here was my first tweet to him (if it allows you to see it.) Feel free to tell me what I did wrong if you know. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 20:13, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Aha! Your tweets are protected. If you log out and click on your link you will see what I mean. That means no-one can see your tweets unless you make them visible to everyone. Obviously you shouldn't unprotect them if you feel uncomfortable about your tweets being public, but if it's just a case of your account being on the wrong setting then you need to unprotect your tweets and tweet the question again so it enters his stream. Betty Logan (talk) 20:44, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I kind of figured that you wouldn't see it but I didn't know that anybody signed in to twitter wouldn't see it. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 20:17, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I may or may not have protected my tweets. Do you see this tweet? Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 18:13, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

I mean unprotected. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 23:39, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Lol, loud and clear! Betty Logan (talk) 02:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Has he respond yet if not is there so were else we can get it? 77.98.167.114

The Hangover franchise

The Hangover Part III must gross $380,838,145 for The Hangover to be listed in the top 25. Hopefully this happens soon, so Superman will have one more obstacle in front of him.TBWarrior720 (talk) 21:36, 6 June 2013 (TUTC)

The first two Hangover movies grossed $1,054,248,217. Hangover Part III has grossed $205,693,956. Die Hard has grossed $1,435,086,362. The Hangover needs to gross $175,114,189 more to catch up. Actually, looking at it now, I doubt it will happen.TBWarrior720 (talk) 16:48, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually IDK. We'll see after this weekend.TBWarrior720 (talk) 06:40, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

The Hangover Part III: $208,009,000  Die Hard: Same as before  Difference: $172,829,14569.110.107.203 (talk) 06:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $272,874,000  Die Hard: Same as before  Difference: $107,964,145 TBWarrior720 (talk) 22:51, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $274,595,982  Difference: $106,242,163TBWarrior720 (talk) 20:11, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $275,750,552  Difference: $105,087,593TBWarrior720 (talk) 20:11, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $276,606,000  Difference: $104,232,145 (June 14th reporting) TBWarrior720 (talk) 20:16, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $309,786,000  Difference: $71,052,145 (June 16th reporting) TBWarrior720 (talk) 20:52, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $310,171,910  Difference: $70,666,235 (June 17th reporting) TBWarrior720 (talk) 05:18, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $310,540,193  Difference: $70,297,952 (June 18th reporting) TBWarrior720 (talk) 23:45, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $310,857,272  Difference: $69,980,873 (June 19th reporting) TBWarrior720 (talk) 08:13, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
The Hangover Part III: $311,096,468  Difference: $69,741,677 (June 20th reporting) TBWarrior720 (talk) 00:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

The Hangover Part III has left the domestic top 12 and will therefore no longer be tracked. TBWarrior720 (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

into darkness

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star trek into darkness has made more than star trek but on the franices list it still calls star trek number 1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.240.59 (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I went ahead and made this change in the sub-section for the Alternate Reality Series (it was already done for the franchise as a whole). I think I changed this so that it looks correct now, but I wasn't quite sure what the "release" parameter in the table code is for, so if I should have changed that, hopefully someone else will correct it. Calathan (talk) 20:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Man of steel part I

Man of stell has made $196,680,000 in oping weekend. Makeing the series to round $1.3 billion. Worldwide — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 15:15, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Scroll up to the section entitled "Superman countdown." I am counting down the money that Man of Steel must gross in order to be on the list.TBWarrior720 (talk) 03:54, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Missing park

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 – According to BOM it has closed. Betty Logan (talk)

On the list JP is not highlight. But on BOM it is. SomeBody better change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 18:38, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

movie battle

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 – WP:NOTFORUM

just for fun i want to ask which seris people on this page like more

Here are your contestonts Harry Potter Vs. Marvel Chenimatic Universe

let the games begin

One For The Avengers

Sorry bro. This isn't a discussion board, it's a place where we talk about stuff concerning the article itself. Try IMDb. TBWarrior720 (talk) 08:07, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

the last son of krypton

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 – WP:NOTFORUM

I have just Sean Man of steel. And it up there with the dark knight trilogy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 18:54, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

This is not a place for discussing the artistic merits of a movie. This is for discussing the article itself. Go to IMDb if you want to talk about how much you liked a movie. TBWarrior720 (talk) 19:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Pixar compututer animation flim series

Should we put all the pixar's flim in one series. Reasons way can be see on this page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pixar_film_references With 13 movies so far. Earning $7,822,557,640 worldwide. If marvel gets one (also own by Disney) Why can not pixar have one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.79.4 (talk) 15:30, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Well Marvel doesn't really get one, the Marvel Cinematic Universe gets one because they have made a series of interconnected films. Pixar is neither a franchise (like Iron Man) nor a series (like MCU), it's a division of Disney just like Miramax was, and we wouldn't rank all the Miramax films together. The upcoming Justice League series will probably get an entry too at some point. Betty Logan (talk) 06:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Betty Logan that the MCU should be grouped together, since the films are interconnected. I agree that films that are not interconnected should not be grouped together.

The MCU does not include all Marvel-based movies, nor should it. It only includes the ones that take place within the same universe as one another.

Allixpeeke (talk) 00:01, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

1 billion

Should we sarpted the 50 highest gorrest movies? To. Flims that has made 1 billion+ And 50 highest gorrest movies that have not made 1 billion. ? WHy? Because it is a massive attachment. And. It will let 15 new films go on the list. ( 51st - 65th) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 19:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't makes sense to have a top 65, unless of course there are more than fifty 1 billion dollar grossers, which there isn't. In truth, a fifty film chart is excessive and ideally should be reduced. Betty Logan (talk) 20:06, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I'd suspect that the ideal list length would be one-hundred. Sixty-five seems arbitrary. Allixpeeke (talk) 00:10, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

If Avatar 2 grosses $0.00 will it still be considered 12th highest grossing franchise?

I know it's way to early to think about this, but if Avatar 2 is released in theatres, and literally nobody goes to see it, will it still be considered a movie franchise, or will it be treated the same as if it was never even released? Also, what if there was a Titanic sequel that had gone straight to DVD? (To be honest, they didn't leave much room for a sequel). Wouldn't Titanic still be considered a franchise, since it had two films?

Avatar 2 will be relase in 2015. As 4 Titanic 2 it will be 4 or 5 years to make the bout and sail it. And the film 10 or 15 years @ least.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 19:29, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

The reason why I bring this up is because Betty is always emphasizing how we use the legal definition of a franchise. Wouldn't a single movie still be a legal intellectual property and still be considered legally a franchise by itself?TBWarrior720 (talk) 08:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

It's an interesting question as to whether we should add DTV releases—with a box office take of $0—to the chart. Is there really a distinction between a film that doesn't have a theatrical release and a film that does and earns hardly anything? Box Office Mojo as a rule doesn't while The Numbers generally does as you can see with The Lion King. Personally speaking I don't mind either way; I don't think adding DTV releases would add much value for readers (unless we are going to start including video income), but at the same time it wouldn't negatively impact on the chart. The totals and positions would stay the same, so the including/excluding them wouldn't make a whole lot of difference. Betty Logan (talk) 18:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't think we should add direct to video releases to the chart, but I was contemplating whether or not we should add Avatar and Titanic as "Franchises" TBWarrior720 (talk) 23:13, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I think, stick with theatrical releases, unless you planned on including the video income. But that's not box office gross, so it's not entirely relevant... And adding DTV releases would also impact the averages of franchises. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 00:26, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

There are two separate issues here.

(1) Should we add DTV items?

(2) Should we include franchises that only have a single release (e.g., Avatar)?

To the first point regarding DTV, I'm weakly inclined to say they should not be included, and I say this because, as ProfessorKilroy points out, inclusion of DTV would impact the averages.

But, to the other point that TBWarrior720 brings up, I agree that "a single movie" would "still be considered legally a franchise by itself." I don't think you should wait for a Titanic II or an Avatar II to come out. I am strongly inclined to say that both Avatar and Titanic should be added to the list right now, as numbers twelve and sixteen respectively. (That would make the list 27-long, as opposed to 25-long, but I'm very okay with that.)

So, in summation, I weakly vote not to add DVTs, and I strongly vote to add Avatar and Titanic as franchises/series of one each.

Allixpeeke (talk) 20:02, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

money converter

Should we add a money converter. So we can have difference money Like Britsh £ € US$ And other taypes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.167.114 (talk) 19:29, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it would offer that much since the US$ seems to be the universal box office currency. It would also be difficult to do for older films since exchange rates vary over time. Betty Logan (talk) 20:17, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

What I was think of was Only the revenues from theatrical exhibition at their nominal value are included here, which sees Avatar rank in the top position. Seventeen films in total have grossed in excess of $1 billion worldwide. (£639,590,000) The films on this chart have all had a theatrical run (including re-releases) since 1996, and films that have not played since then do not appear on the chart due to ticket-price inflation, population size and ticket purchasing trends not being considered. The most represented year is 2012 with seven films. 77.98.167.114