Talk:List of guinea pig breeds

Breed types and names

The breeds mentioned here only apply to the American Cavy Breeders Association, and those that follow their standards. There are actually at least two more distinct standards. There is the European one (Championed by the EE) and there is the British one, which is championed by various British clubs (under the umbrella of the British Cavy Council) and the Nordic countries, plus Australia and New Zealand.

There are quite a few differences, too many to mention. A copy of the BCC standard is available to download I believe at the BCC homepage. The EE (Entente European) is also available from their home page.

Just mentioning only the American breeds, breed names, and such is quite inaccurate, and some might say misleading (maybe even on purpose). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.166.193.195 (talk) 21:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Untitled

This page could really use pictures of all the different varieties and preferably also different color variations too. I'm going to add a link to the main article though, since isn't Wikipedia supposed to be hypertext? (forgive me if it's not standard to "backlink" to articles, but it seemed approriate)

Requested move

Breeds is definitely an applicable term to the varieties of guinea pig, as they have distinct traits that breed true. Also, it is simpler and more in line with the titling of such pages as Dog breed and Cat breed. Even if this move doesn't happen, for grammar reasons it at least needs to be moved to Domestic varieties of guinea pig (minus the plural). VanTucky 21:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest a "list" title here, either List of guinea pig breeds (seems better) or List of domestic varieties of guinea pig. Dekimasuよ! 06:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

The article is not actuall a list, nor is it intended to be one. it is just like the dog and cat articles above. also, there aren't any more breeds than what is in the article already, so there's no room for list style expansion. VanTucky 04:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

You moved the article before the request was closed, but you forgot to remove the plural. Suggest that this at least be closed with a move to Guinea pig breed. Dekimasuよ! 13:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

There are actually more breeds than you originally listed. The latest frontier in guinea pig breeding seems to be different curly haired breeds.Salanaland (talk) 23:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

If it where a list article than each of the breeds would half to have its own article. thats the whole point of lists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.149.118.183 (talk) 15:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Merger

See relevant discussion here. VanTucky ^Talk 18:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

New formatting and expansion

In an effort to get this article to GA status, I've slowly adding images and making improvements. However, when I started out to initially expand the breeds individually, I found it a daunting task. In current format, there are multiple listings for the same breeds (of different name depending on region). In order to have comprehensive listings for each breed that doesn't repeat content or leave some inadequate, I am trying a new format with one area for each breed. Each section can still mention different names and judging standards for individual breeds (i.e. Sheltie/Silkie) without getting into ine POV too heavily. For now, I named the Self/American/English breed as simply short haired to avoid a POV. I also leaned a bit heavily on the Australian National Cavy Council's standard, as they freely publish their standards book. The British and Americans do not, so I will trying to get those soon (even if I have to buy them). I also want to add sections on scientific strains and the meat production breed. Let me know what you think of the new look and additions, VanTucky ^Talk 20:13, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Self is not a breed (hair texture/length) but a variety (solid color). You can have self black Americans, self red Abyssinians, self cream Peruvians, self chocolate Teddies, etc. I am not a breeder but I've read a lot about guinea pig coat colors and such and consulted with some former breeders.Salanaland (talk) 23:19, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

In some countries, such as Britain, self is both a color variation and another name for short haired (i.e. American) cavies. Self simply means "same", so obviously smooth, short-coated cavies fall under that definition. VanTucky 23:22, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

The ANCC standard refers to "Self" as "English Self" in its description; plus other color varieties of short-haired pigs are named merely by their color variety (roan, himalayan, etc.). So I think the assumption in this document is that all pigs are short-haired, and any other hair type has to be specified, but that "self" is a description of a short-haired cavy, not a name for short-haired cavies. In any case, "self" in that document is applied only to self-colored animals. There is no such thing as a "Dalmatian self". I don't find the Omlet UK site definitive as it isn't sourced and isn't an official document of a show association.Salanaland (talk) 23:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I have deleted some (horribly-grammared) portions of a few of the breed descriptions which detailed tips for care of the breed's hair. The article is an objective listing of recognized and unrecognized breeds, not a how-to. As these portions were at the end of each breed's description, I suspect they were tacked-on haphazardly by a single individual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.93.92.140 (talk) 06:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Great Job

Wow, great job with adding so much information! That's fine that you changed it to Guinea Pig Breeds...there is definitely more information on it. I love the page so keep up the great work! --Cher <3 (talk) 20:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

List?

Does anyone else think this would work better as List of Guinea pig breeds? --ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 20:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

ALPACA SWISS

This article needs to be made international . Cavies were established in Europe long before they hit the shores of the USA. I don't see any reference to Alpaca or Swiss breeds. A section on Cuy would also be appropriate.

Another section could list the major differences in show longhairs, as some countries allow you to trim the tips and others fault a pig that does not have its original baby fur tips. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.238.78.126 (talk) 17:02, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't think this is protected, so feel free to add anything if you have sources, like breed club gazettes or magazines. I have a couple of books on guinea pigs, but they are older and only cover the older ones. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 21:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

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Himalayan Origin

Deleted the following sentence under "Himalayan:"

These guinea pigs are thought to originate in southeast Asia, similar to cat breeds like the Himalayan, Siamese, etc.

Guinea pigs have not historically been prevalent in southeast Asia although they are now quite popular across the continent.

It's my understanding that Himalayan guinea pigs originated in the United States and the UK in the mid 20th century, however I cannot find the ARBA articles on the topic that I recall reading. I believe the article stated that they were named after Himalayan rabbits, not Himalayan cats.

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Alphabetically ordering the guinea pig breeds?

Currently the breeds portion of the list is:

• 2 American
  • 2.1 White Crested
• 3 Abyssinian
• 4 Peruvian
• 5 Silkie
• 6 Coronet
• 7 Lunkarya group
• 8 Texel
  • 8.1 Merino
• 9 Sheba
• 10 Teddy
• 11 Hairless varieties
  • 11.1 Skinny
  • 11.2 Baldwin

But would it not be better to reorder the breeds portion so that it's alphabetical? See:

• 2 Abyssinian
• 3 American
  • 3.1 White Crested
• 4 Coronet
• 5 Hairless varieties
  • 5.1 Skinny
  • 5.2 Baldwin
• 6 Lunkarya group
• 7 Peruvian
• 8 Sheba
• 9 Silkie
• 10 Teddy
• 11 Texel
  • 11.1 Merino

Please format as list

The article is not formatted like a list. Can someone please fix this? TypoEater (talk) 15:05, 19 April 2023 (UTC)