Talk:List of guide dog schools

Formatting

Citation

I am looking to find or build a simple Wikipedia:Citation templates for this page.

Example of used currently

    *[[Guide Dogs for the Blind | Guide Dogs for the Blind: San Rafael, California]] External - [http://www.guidedogs.com Guide Dogs for the Blind website]

I am in process of constructing a "cite org" template User:Jeepday/Sandbox/cite org I am still a ways away from getting it together. Feel free to stop by and offer comments, etc. Jeepday 02:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I have decided not to try and build a template. The current format is working fine without one. Jeepday (talk) 14:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Organization

The list is already laid out by Continent alphabetically, sub categories (if needed) should follow the same format. I checked Wikipedia:List guideline and did not find a way to automate the organization of the list so it would have to manually sorted.

External Links

This page includes external links to organizations where available. Including external links in a list is not a standard process in Wikipedia. These links were included specifically to enhance the usability of this page for visually impaired users who may have difficulty locating the resources through sources other then Wikipedia. Jeepday 13:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Does this article violate WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a directory? (I.e. can what you propose be done on a different wiki?) Pan Dan 16:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your question Pan Dan. No this article does not violate WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a directory. It states "Lists or repositories of loosely associated topics" are not appropriate. Guide Dog schools are all related to single thing, training guide dogs. Jeepday 13:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm with Pan Dan. Discussion is currently on my talk page: User_talk:Ronz#LinkFarm --Ronz (talk) 00:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Appropriateness?

I'm a bit torn on whether or not this article is reasonable.... I've watched most of the assistance dog articles get more and more links added as more people discover them, and have come to believe it's better to have no links to specific organizations rather than something like this- it almost feels like advertising- who gets to decide what organizations get put on? There isn't really a need for an article for every school... they'd pretty much all be stubs and look very similar, I think, and there's several great sites that can tell you organizations for your area and give you links for groups, such as IAADP's "Who's Who in the Assistance Dog Community" (speaking of which, I'm rather embarrassed I've missed the International Guide Dog Federation all this time...).

Anyway, if this is something you're set on, I guess you could start by adding all of the organizations that used to be listed on guide dog. -- Sarranduin ^(Talk) 23:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

You have some good questions Sarranduin Here are my responses Jeepday 14:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Appropriateness - The argument was made on the guide dog edits "01:29, 22 December 2006 Icemuon (Talk | contribs) m (The links will quickly get cluttered unless we keep them down to the most important ones.)" that the Guide dog article was not the location to list guide dog schools. So where besides a list of guide dog schools would be more more appropriate? Jeepday 14:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Who decides what gets put on? - Who ever wants to add a school, decides to add it (assuming it is a real school, Wikipedia entries must be verifiable). You may notice that this list as short as it is already contains two schools not listed on Assistance Dog International's directory of membership organizations (Pilot Dogs & Royal New Zealand Federation of the Blind}Jeepday 14:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Articles for every school - I don't know if there will be articles for every school. Each article in Wikipedia has to stand on its own. This list is built so that if the article is built later this list will already be built to wkiklink to it.Jeepday 14:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Advertisement - Some schools like The Seeing Eye (one of the first schools in the world, and the first in the US) do not even have web pages. The best information about it on line is only avaible on Wikipedia and other schools web pages. Jeepday 14:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Other lists on line - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia so unlike other list on line it should be complete regardless of if membership fees are paid or if a school goes out of business, this list is not dependent on fees for listing or other social/political factors. Jeepday 14:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Closed Schools

If a school has closed please leave it in place on the list (or add it) and put an entry in front of its place on the list "School closed" followed by the approximate date. Jeepday 14:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Notability

I've read the other sections in this talk, but they do not really address the question of "notability". I think we need an inline reference for each entry to confirm that it is "notable", in addition to any inline reference confirming that "this is a guide dog school". Something like "the only one listed for a country in this referenced world list" would be OK, as would "the largest", "the oldest", "received this fantastic award" or whatever.

If the school is "notable", please create an article for it. If you cannot create at least a stub article establishing notability then it is not notable in Wikipedia's terms (there may of course be exceptions, please explain why clearly here if you add an exception). One good reference from that article can then support the entry here.

Both the current references in the article were archived dead links, so we need to find up-to-date lists or whatever to support the inclusion. I have started with one maintained by the AFB and a charity's world list. These can help the reader find nearby or whatever schools, it is not necessary for Wikipedia to duplicate them. I have used {{sfn}} and friends so that we can also have a clearly visible bulleted list of cited lists, which should help usability. I will start looking for further references... --Mirokado (talk) 13:54, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

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