Talk:List of films featuring hallucinogens

Questions

Hi Erik. This looks like a good start. It has me rummaging through my memory banks for additions. What do you think about adding a column to list what the hallucinogen is when known. Also, how stringent is the requirement for the reference column? I can think of Powwow Highway, Billy Jack and Harold and Maude as possible additions but I do not know where I would go to get sourcing. Would these two Chaplin film Easy Street (film) and Modern Times qualify? You might need a separate table for all the versions of Alice in Wonderland heehee. Anyway congrats on getting this going. MarnetteD | Talk 18:55, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, MarnetteD. :) I started the list with references that identify groupings of films that feature hallucinogens so it can pass WP:NOTESAL. Going forward, we do not need for a film to be listed among others for inclusion. I tend to search in Google Books with the film title and the word "hallucinogen" to see what comes up. It may be a little trickier with this example since some films may only have brief scenes, but I think that is even the case with some existing items like In the Name of the Father (which I believe shows drug usage but doesn't actually show a personal view of a hallucinogenic trip) and Midnight Cowboy (which a source said had a brief scene). The significance of a hallucinogen in a film can vary. If you can think of additional criteria we can apply, I'm all ears. I just created this list since I figured with A Field in England, a list like this would be interesting to readers. You should have seen how much traffic List of films featuring home invasions got after The Purge came out! Erik (talk | contribs) 19:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

References to use

• 10 Best Movie Drug Trips at Rolling Stone

References to use. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 15:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Should Taking Woodstock be added?

LSD is used in the film, but whether the experience constitutes a hallucination or a pseudo-hallucination, and whether pseudo-hallucinations (assuming it is the latter) are to be included in this list, is contestable.  allixpeeke (talk) 12:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

We can try to find a reliable source that highlights this in the film. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 15:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Should Videodrome be added?

It would certainly seem that hallucination takes place in this film, but this hallucination is not caused by drugs; rather, it is caused by something much more bizarre.  Does it merit inclusion?  allixpeeke (talk) 12:56, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Considering that the hallucination was not caused by a specific hallucinogen, I don't think it warrants inclusion. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 15:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Should DMT: The Spirit Molecule be added?

On the one hand, DMT is obviously a hallucinogenic drug.  On the other hand, DMT: The Spirit Molecule is a 2010 documentary about DMT, not a fictional film.  Where do we stand on that?  allixpeeke (talk) 13:02, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

@Allixpeeke: I would be fine with adding a documentary, but we should have a reliable source to go with its inclusion so we can indicate that such an independent source has noted the hallucinogenic element. Really, this list of films could use descriptions, like what exists at list of films featuring surveillance. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 15:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny should be added

I remembered another one.  Although marijuana is used throughout the film, marijuana is only a pseudo-hallucinogen.  But, mushrooms are used in the film in one scene, so methinks that counts.  (Source.)  allixpeeke (talk) 08:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Should Where the Buffalo Roam be added?

And another one.  This movie is a comedy about Hunter S. Thompson.  I am fairly sure that hallucinogens are used in this film, although the exact examples do not pop into my mind currently.  allixpeeke (talk) 08:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Possible descriptions

• Altered States

The protagonist, Professor Edward Jessup, experiences hallucinations using a combination of sensory deprivation within isolated flotation tanks and psychoactive drugs, likely including ayahuasca.  The effects are more than just psychedelic; Jessup begins to to experience actual, physical, biological devolution.

• DMT: The Spirit Molecule

DMT: The Spirit Molecule is a documentary about the intense hallucinogenic drug dimethyltryptamine (DMT), which, according to IMDb, "exists in humans and numerous species of plants and animals.  The documentary traces Dr. Rick Strassman's government-sanctioned, human DMT research and its many trials, tribulations, and inconceivable realizations.  A closer examination of DMT's effects through the lens of two traditionally opposed concepts, science and spirituality, The Spirit Molecule explores the connections between cutting-edge neuroscience, quantum physics, and human spirituality."^[1]

• Naked Lunch

William Lee's wife, Joan, uses his insecticide, pyrethrum, as a drug.  When Lee is arrested by the police, he begins hallucinating because of "bug powder" exposure.  He believes he is a secret agent whose controller (a giant bug) assigns him the mission of killing Joan, who is an agent of an organization called Interzone Incorporated.  Later, whilst Lee is under the influence of assorted mind-altering substances, his typewriter, a Clark Nova, becomes a giant talking insect which tells him to find Dr. Benway.

• Taking Woodstock

The protagonist, Elliot Tiber, meets a hippie couple who invite him to join them on an LSD trip in their V. W. Bus a short distance from the Woodstock crowd.  Tiber has trouble relaxing at first, but gradually melts into a sexual and psychedelic union with them.  Tiber sees fluid and flowing patterns in the tapestry inside the bus.  When they finally emerge after sundown, Tiber watches the vast crowd and brilliant lights of the distant concert ripple with harmonious hallucinatory visuals that swell into serene white light.^[2]

• Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny

The pseudo-hallucinogen cannabis is used often throughout the film, and the hallucinogen psilocybin is used once.  "JB" (also known as "Jables") hungrily consumes psilocybin mushroom in a forest and has a hallucinogenic experience in which he visualises various things, including the word juicy floating from his mouth, trails following his hand, unnatural luminescence, and Sasquatch, with whom he cavorts.  Sasquatch, who can speak English and seems to know and appreciate JB, informs JB that the forest belongs to everyone and that JB is "an awesome rocker."  JB asks Sasquatch if he can be a sasquatch, too, to which Sasquatch responds that JB already is, and that JB is Sasquatch's son.  The two take a dip in the strawberry river, and then Sasquatch flies with JB riding on his back and singing.

The above possible descriptions above were authored by allixpeeke (talk) 08:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC).

Highway

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_(2002_film) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165361/ in the 2002 movie Highway starting jared leto and jake gyllenhaal, other drugs are used through out the movie but closer to the end the psychedelic LSD is used. 68.188.200.62 (talk) 23:53, 6 May 2014 (UTC)sk!

I'm not finding any reliable sources noting this. I'm not doubting that it happened, but I think it's best to include a film if hallucinogens were noteworthy by a reliable source. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 23:59, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Hooked in Film

The book Hooked in Film has on pages 347-348 a very extensive list of films featuring hallucinogens. These should be incorporated into this Wikipedia list. Erik II (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:20, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

"Hallucinogens" = blatant misnomer ..

.. and about as outdated and wrong as psychotomimetics. Ought to be changed to psychedelics, entheogens, or psychotropic substances. Wda (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2017 (UTC)