Talk:List of fictional countries on the Earth/Archive 3

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Notability

Just wondering if we can agree a simple notability guideline for this list.

I'd suggest that requiring a fictional country to have its own WP page would be too strict. However, it seems reasonable to require every entry to have a WP page for the work; after all, if the fictional country is notable, the work in which it is mentioned will certainly be. If the work is notable, it'll have its own WP page. Bromley86 (talk) 19:32, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

On a similar note, should every fictional country be added here? There is also List of fictional African countries, List of fictional American countries, and similar lists for Asia, Europe, and Island nations. Should all these lists be combined, or should they be left separate? Should this list include all the countries from the other lists? Natg 19 (talk) 00:37, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

The good news is that those articles are a good fit with this one, as originally conceived. This article limits the inclusion to:

Fictional works describe all the countries in the following list as located somewhere on the surface of the Earth as we know it — as opposed to underground, inside the planet, on another world, or during a different "age" of the planet with a different physical geography.

That was in the article almost from the start. It was removed by an IP a couple of years ago, and added back by me recently. I'm happy to talk about removing it, but it does need to be talked about. By definition, those articles fit with that requirement.

It does seem insane to effectively manage separate sets of data; we'll never have a decent set if we try that, as someone will always add to the American article, for example, without thinking to also add to this one. A good example of that is the Caribbean section in the American article: 3 entries. Compare to the Caribbean section in the Island Nations article.

Is there an issue with article size if we did merge everything? I wonder if it'd be better to treat this page as a redicter to the sub pages, which'd then allow for non-earth country pages to be linked to. Bromley86 (talk) 04:30, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

in regards to nations from fantasy:

Please stop adding countries that do not meet the criteria. Thank you. Verified Cactus (talk) 19:37, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Re-addition of "purged" countries?

I have been reading through the talk page archives and I have noticed that @Ncboy2010: and @RandomCritic: have purged many items from the list. I have also noticed that many of them do indeed meet the criteria, and so should be eligible for re-entry. How should we approach this? Verified Cactus (talk) 00:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

The reasons for the deletions I made are all clearly stated in the first talk archive. If they are felt to be inaccurate, or if the criteria have changed, please discuss. I can't speak to any other deletions that were made by other persons.RandomCritic (talk) 01:00, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

lacking items

San Monte, South American country visited by Superman in Action Comics #1; United States of Africa, homeland of Lieutenant Uhura, Star Trek original series.--Manfariel (talk) 17:36, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Feel free to add them so long as they meet the criteria. The Verified Cactus 100% 21:01, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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Game of Thrones?

Not a fan myself, but just wondering if the Game of Thrones countries belong in this article? The show isn't mentioned on the "Fantasy Worlds" Wikipedia page, either--surely it belongs on one or the other? Thoughts? Apruzan (talk) 00:33, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

The world of A Song of Ice and Fire does not take place on Earth, and as such, does not belong on this list. It would be better suited on that other page. The Verified Cactus 100% 18:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

On the subject of notability and James H. Cobb

@Graham1973:

The creator of the character Amanda Garret is not un-noteable read for example John Birminghams Weapons of Choice trilogy where there is a ship (and class of ships) named in honor of the author and his very successful creation. Just because he died in 2014 and created a strong female character does not make him 'unnotable'

None of what you said makes Cobb notable. While I concede that a quick google search seems to turn up enough results to make him notable, he doesn't have a Wikipedia page. If neither the work the country comes from or the creator of the work have a Wikipedia page, they shouldn't be on the list.The Verified Cactus 100% 01:08, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

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Fictional countries from non-Earth

Hi, I mistaken added months ago Kalos from Pokémon. The user SimplyMashedPotatoes delete it because isn't from Earth. My question is... why are in this list (for example) Bowser's Kingdom, Sarasa Land and Mushroom Kingdom from Super Mario, if they are from a fictional world named "Mushroom World" and not from Earth itself?

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You are right. They should be deleted too. Dannyguns Dannyguns (talk) 15:57, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Well, according to lore, Pokèmon has America, India and Guyana... Does constitute as a world similar to ours? Dannyguns (talk) 18:26, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Another fictional country

Yedzanistan in one of the episodes Inspector Gadget TV show of 1980s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.52.34.85 (talk) 20:25, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Geography now countries (redo)

• Disclaimer* This is a redo of when I previously posted this section, but I forgot the signature, since I'm new to Wikipedia. But without further ado, here's the section:

I noticed that you have Bandiaterra, an april fool's country from Geography Now, on the list, but Geography Now has made more fictional countries to celebrate April fool's since. These include: Limberwisk, The Confederation of Patch Amberdash, and Qitzikwaka, with him saying that a country called "The Voskodon Republic" coming next April fool's (I'm not sure if I got the spelling for the last one right, so please correct me if I'm wrong). --JH2006 (talk) 15:49, 15 October 2020 (UTC) EDIT: I actually looked closer and saw Limberwisk on there, but Patch Amberdash and Qitzikwaka still have yet to appear on the list. JH2006 (talk) 18:00, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Destroido from Scooby Doo! Mystery Incorporated

Destroido is a corporation in Scooby Doo! Mystery incorporated lead by Ricky Owens, alias Mr. E. It's introduction episode doesn't say it is a country, but in a later episode, both Crystal Cove's mayor and sheriff directly say that it is a sovereign entity, meaning the sheriff can't arrest anyone and people need a Destroido passport to go on the property. --JH2006 (talk) 16:19, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

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The new Geography Now april fool's country

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All of the Geography Now countries.

Ok. Seriously. I made those edits about Geography Now's April Fool's countries months ago, and while Qitziqwaka has been added, weirdly enough Bandiaterra and Limberwisk have been removed and the other 2, the Confederation of Patch Amberdash (alternatively Datcsh) and Sovonthak haven't been added. I'm just wondering why they aren't on there. I seriously hope they get added. --JH2006 (talk) 18:30, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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Thc biomed does research in all these countries?

Lots of work 2001:569:5476:1D00:8DFA:56BF:AFDB:CF75 (talk) 23:34, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Remove Zeon?

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Fictional works describe all the countries in the following list as located somewhere on the surface of the Earth as we know it – as opposed to underground, inside the planet, on another world, or during a different "age" of the planet with a different physical geography.

As such, should we remove it from the article? Eunakria (talk) 02:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

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Wor bet i see in wold map

Helotra 103.87.49.44 (talk) 15:07, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Can we split this list into separate articles?

I feel like this is not really a good reference for anything one might want a list of fictional countries for, because it mixes countries from works of secondary-world fiction, countries invented for parody, countries invented as part of scams, and countries invented for military exercises. I can't think of a situation where someone looking for a list of references would want all of these in one place. ScribblingTiresias (talk) 00:15, 25 February 2023 (UTC)