Talk:Lists of extreme points

Renaming (2008)

On the 6th of November, this article was nominated for deletion. The consensus was keep so I closed the discussion. However, a suggestion was made to move/rename the article to "List of extreme points". (no caps) I'd like some opinions about this before I go BOLD and change it. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:47, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I feel stupid. It was already moved :) --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Rename? (2011)

The name of this article is awfully redundant... in the past this was called List of extreme points and Lists of extreme points. Both sound better than this. Anyone else up for a rename? ThemFromSpace 01:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Requested move (2)

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:13, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

• List of extreme points lists → List of extreme points – Proposing move to reduce redundancy. This is the standard name for a "list of lists" type disambiguation page and it sounds much better than the current title. Since the move is complex and needs an admin to handle I can't go ahead and do it BRD style. Listing this requested move as controversial because the page was moved away from my suggested title in the past. ThemFromSpace 01:21, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose. It is a list of lists, not directly a list of information. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

  Perhaps you misread me? The reason I proposed to move this is because no other list of lists contains the redundancy. Look at Category:Lists of lists to see what I mean. ThemFromSpace 13:19, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

  I disagree. Take a look at one of my favourite articles, List of lists of lists. Also, type "List of lists" into the search bar and you will see a bunch of articles that start like that. Jenks24 (talk) 07:55, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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Requested move 2013

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The result of the move request was: Move. There is clear consensus to move away from the current title, and the proposed one has the best support. Cúchullain ^t/c 17:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

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List of extreme point lists → Lists of extreme points – The article formerly had this title, and the move to the present title was done without prior discussion. The awkward grammar of the present title, in which the phrase "extreme point" acts as an adjective, makes it difficult to understand. A look at Category:Lists_of_lists and List of lists of lists shows that Lists of foo is customary whereas List of foo lists is not. —rybec 23:53, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

• Support per nom, "list of lists" -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 03:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
• Support The current title is wrong on so many levels. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:01, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
• Move instead to List of lists of extreme points. Lists of extreme points would be wrong because this article does not contain extreme points. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:10, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Support List of lists of extreme points. It's a list of lists, and this title clearly identifies that. ENeville (talk) 02:02, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
• Support as proposed per WP:CRITERIA, specifically consistency with other members of Category:Lists of lists. Currently, the only article that begins with "List of lists" is List of lists of lists itself. By contrast, there are tons of articles that begin with "Lists of." Why deviate from that? --BDD (talk) 18:21, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Because "List of Xs" asserts a listing of Xs? How can the logic be any more simple? --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:25, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

So you'd like to see all those other articles renamed, then? WP:CRITERIA also says articles should be concise. It's not that your proposal is wrong or misleading or anything—just that it doesn't fit as well with our naming criteria as the original proposal. --BDD (talk) 22:35, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Maybe it is OK. I had missed an s. It is not a "List of Xs" but is "Lists of extreme points", so it is not strictly speaking inaccurate. I guess that this is a "Use the singular form" vs conciseness. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:12, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Lists of extreme points is unambiguous; it signifies correctly that the topic of the article is a collection of lists on the subject of extreme points. "List of lists" or variations on that wording would be superfluous. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:51, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
• Support. This seems quite clear and is consistent with the many other lists of lists pages. older ≠ wiser 22:49, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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