Talk:List of capital crimes in the Torah

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Toddcs in topic Ridiculous

Do not put these back without good reason edit

  • Rebellion/Treason (Joshua 1:18)
    • This was not commanded in the Bible; if you read the context this was the crowd speaking, not a commandment of any kind. You may as well say that the late-19th/early-20th century American media endorsed lynching because they documented it. Since this article is listing capital crimes in the Bible, rather than capital offenses in the ANE, this one doesn't make sense.
  • It should be noted that the modern Christian view of salvation and forgiveness, as described by Jesus in the New Testament, negates the legality of these verses within Christianity or the Bible as a whole.
    • This is POV material; you might not like Reconstructionists (and I don't) but they certainly wouldn't agree with this. The NT does not eliminate the need for civil government (see Romans 13:1-3); exactly what form that should take is the issue that is discussed among Christians. It's far from a settled matter. Explanation of the various views (least of all merely one of them spoken as if it were the only Christian view on the matter) should not be in a "List of..." article.
      • Perhaps a note to the effect that some Christian denominations believe that the New Testament negates these, with a link to the article Biblical law in Christianity? On the other hand, it does specify "among Jews", so that might not be necessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.149.120.3 (talk) 13:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps someone wants to work on a "Capital punishment in the Bible" article with me? --Collard 11:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

It ought to be noted that it was not a capital crime for a woman to have premarital sex with a man other than her husband, unless she married that man while claiming to be a version. The verse assumes that the husband was not aware of her lack of virginity. While more might be argued, it might be better to stick with what we know the verse allows for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.202.139 (talk) 18:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, I am against the removal of "Sexual activity between a married man and an unmarried woman was not forbidden.[1]", since the Old Testament shows by example that Jewish men were allowed to have concubines (mistresses), i.e. to have sex with women they were not married to. See e.g. http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=concubine&version1=31&searchtype=all&limit=none&wholewordsonly=no for the list of verses which show this.
I quote from http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/791997 : "The Bible mentions approximately forty polygynists, including such prominent figures as Abraham, Jacob, Esau, Moses, David and King Solomon, with little or no further remark on their polygyny as such." Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Ridiculous edit

Why is the Bible being used here as a reference, when the authors of the page obviously have no idea what the Bible is saying, especially with reference to the Hebrew language in question? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mercster (talkcontribs) 07:10, 25 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yes, the content of this page is definitely among the most muddled I can ever remember reading on Wikipedia. Toddcs (talk) 12:34, 12 May 2022 (UTC)Reply