Talk:List of airlines of Australia

Latest comment: 1 year ago by ThumperOP in topic Remote Air Services Subsidy Scheme

Aeropelican & Brindabella? edit

Aeropelican merged or was absorbed into Brindabella a few years(?) ago. Brindabella went into administration a few weeks ago (after CASA grounded aircraft on maintenance related issues). Do these carriers still actually hold an air operator's certificate? Also the link for searching said list is 404, so I can't check. Supertin (talk) 05:06, 23 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

Aeropelican ceased operations in the middle of this year. Brindabella is in Receivership, so is as good as dead, especially as most of its routes have been taken away from it and all of its aircraft have been repossessed by their owners/financers. They both still have an AOC, but that is probably a moot point. The CASA website used to allow viewing of the actual AOC of an airline, but the website was revamped a while back and now only the AOC Holder can view the AOC and all a visitor can do is check whether there is an AOC or not. YSSYguy (talk) 23:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)Reply


Defunct airline images edit

If this is a list of current operators, should the images of defunct airlines be removed? E.g. the Ansett Airbusses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.90.243.186 (talk) 14:21, 3 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Agree they should be moved to List of defunct airlines of Australia, unfortunately while that article was full of images it has now been redirected to a simple list. Perhaps it needs to be reverted. MilborneOne (talk) 15:56, 3 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Airlines or Regular Passenger Services edit

Hi YSSYguy. In light of our conversation regarding Vortex Air, do you agree that if this page should specifically list airlines that provide RPT, then the page text needs to be clearer? As it stands, it says... This is a list of airlines that have a current air operator's certificate issued by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority. The link to airlines says... Airline services can be categorized as being intercontinental, domestic, regional, or international, and may be operated as scheduled services or charters. Fair point you make about not listing dozens of small charter operators. So if the intent is to limit the list to those providing regular passenger services then I don't think it is clear. Umarghdunno (talk) 11:14, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

When I think of a charter airline, I visualise a planeload of pale English people or Danes flying to Tenerife or Corfu to spend a week or two in the sun, having booked flights-and-accommodation packages. We don’t do that in Australia, the closest we have are the companies such as Alliance operating FIFO flights to the mines, but they all have RPT air operator certificates. I agree that the list isn’t all that clear, but Pel-Air and Toll Aviation are operating at least partly to regular schedules but only have Charter AOCs and a lot of people would say they’re airlines because they operate airliners. YSSYguy (talk) 14:22, 29 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Remote Air Services Subsidy Scheme edit

Is it worth adding info on the Remote Air Services Subsidy Scheme [1] to the notes section of airlines? The RASS operators on the current list are Aviair (Pilbara, Kimberley), Par Avion (Cape Barren Island), Skytrans (Cape York) and Chartair (Northern Territory, Kalgoorlie). Air Kimberley, ( freight only in the Kimberley), Chinta Air (freight only in Channel Country), and Northern Territory Air Services (passengers in Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara and Channel Country and freight only in southern NT) also operate RASS flights but are not on the current list. Skytrans [2], NTAS [3] and Chartair [4] provide schedules on their websites, Air Kimberley [5] mentions RASS without schedules, and the remaining airlines (Aviair, Chinta Air, Par Avion) have no mention at all anywhere on their website. Input from the community into how this info can be implemented would be much appreciated. ThumperOP (talk) 05:27, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Updated with sources. ThumperOP (talk) 06:16, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Par Avion/scenic airlines edit

Par Avion is a strange airline. It mostly operates air tours [6], the exceptions being the bushwalking service to Melaleuca [7]and the RASS flight to Cape Barren Island (the latter not even mentioned on their website) [8]. On top of this, their RASS responsibilities also require they carry cargo [9] and they also provide charter flights [10]. This makes Par Avion, from what I can tell, the only airline in the country that operates regular passenger services, air tours, cargo flights and charter flights. From this, I have multiple questions. First, where should Par Avion go, list wise? Second, is it worth adding a tourist airline or air tour section for airlines of that nature (there are so many, just from a quick Google search [11][12])? Thirdly, is it worth naming airlines more than once? A majority of airlines in this country provide at least some form of charter service, bar the major carriers like Qantas, and the same can be said for cargo. Should we then consider repeating entries in multiple sections, or possibly even a reconstruction of this article? I would love some input as to how we approach this. ThumperOP (talk) 06:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply