Talk:List of Phillips Exeter Academy people

Notability

As this page claims to list notable alumni, all people listed should either have articles about them or citations for the purpose of verification. Thanks in advance, Kukini ^{hablame aqui} 19:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

William Morris the founding editor of The American Heritage Dictionary is said in his New York Times obituary article to have graduated from Phillips Exeter but it doesn't list a year.Does anybody know? http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F05E0D6103EF937A35752C0A962958260 75.170.97.44 (talk) 06:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Michael Bay DID NOT attend Exeter. He attended Crossroads High from California. http://www.michaelbay.com/bio/bio.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.220.165 (talk) 20:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

As Kukini noted above and as provided at Notability: Lists of People, each entry must either link to a Wikipedia article for that person, or it must have a footnote, or footnotes, to a reliable, verifiable source that establishes notability and the individual's connection to the list. Entries that do not, are likely to be deleted. --Bejnar (talk) 23:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

The hoax is back

The Barbaro info, "sourced" by another Wiki is false. The only Ghits are for mirrors about deletion of related hoax articles. [1]. Please see User:Barneca/watch/societyfinalclubs for more evidence of hoaxing. Edward321 (talk) 14:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

THERE IS NO HOAX I am an alumnus of Exeter and you don't know what you are talking about. All the deleteing that is taking place, and all of the hoaxing accusations, and all of the names and users on you so-called "hoax-list" is what you put there. You seem to remove ever Barbaro fact and related person- saying it is a hoax, and you seem to accuse everyone who is doing good faith edits as hoaxers, and you seem to block everyone and anyone your feel like when you don't know what you are talking about- and you don't know the subject matter that you are editing. Anytime something Barbaro comes up, I can see from your edit history that you remove it and then accuse everyone on your "watch list of hoaxers". People that you keep putting there because you are confused. Why don't you actually look up the sources that are listed and see for yourself, instead of accusing everthing as hoaxing. I will not indulge your ignorance. Barbaro is listed in records and the info on the link is accurate, and if you had that same info on Wikipedia, and you removed it- than you behaved dumb- you just removed valid information.Ex-men (talk) 15:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand what makes this seem like a valid source. There are a number of problems with the source which is "cited" to make the claim in dispute.

1. The source is mirror of an old version of the page Barbaro family from Wikipedia, and the content there has since been removed. There is no independent verification except this page about the family.
2. The other source does not claim that Vitus is the "acting head" of the family, and I can find no independent verification for that claim, nor any reason why it is notable.
3. The other source also does not claim that he has anything to do with the Art Institute of Chicago, and I can find no independent verification for a notable role he plays there either.

In short, this just smells like the same hoax which has been going on in various corners of Wikipedia for some time. I'm not going to get into a massive edit war over a name on a list, but it should absolutely be removed. (ESkog)^(Talk) 21:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually, this seals the deal for me. I'd be shocked if Ex-men weren't just another incarnation of "Save Venice." Same editing style, same "this conversation is over" and pointing to records and cites which either don't exist or don't say what you need them to. Why not go disrupt someone else's corner of the Internet? (ESkog)^(Talk) 21:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Nationmaster source

Someone who appears to be unrelated to the hoaxer reinstated Barbaro, claiming in the edit summary that http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Barbaro-family is a reliable source. It isn't; if you look at the bottom of the NationMaster page, it says it is a Wikipedia mirror, and is a copy of an older version of the article Barbaro family. I'm a little concerned, because one of the hoaxer's favorite games is to insist ad nauseum that NationMaster is a reliable source. But the editor otherwise appears to be a good contributor, so I think and hope this is not the same person. I strongly recommend that the reference not be reinstated without consensus. --barneca (talk) 23:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

And now the repeated efforts to "sanitize" this page so that next time this goofball decides to insert "Vitus Barbaro" somewhere, this conversation doesn't show up. What a ridiculous, long-lasting stunt this is. (ESkog)^(Talk) 13:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I reinstated the entry in good faith, but I cannot now see why I did, I can't for the life of me see what I read that made me think it was a good source, I do apologise and maybe I shouldn't edit so late after a long days work. Winchelsea 14:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

No harm, no foul. A 1-minute review of your contributions yesterday left me confident you had nothing to do with our friend. --barneca (talk) 16:48, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Patrick Bateman

Patrick Bateman is notable and is an allum of Phillips Exeter Academy. The criteria is says nothing about actual or fictional allumni.71.255.74.151 (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Since this is an article about the real Phillips Exeter Academy, IMHO it doesn't make sense to add fictional characters. This is generally the process that is used in, for example, List of structural engineers, List of architects, and all of the #Alumni sections of school articles. If for some reason a consensus develops on this page to do it differently, I can certainly live with that, but until then I think fictional characters should stay out. I'll wait to see what other editors of the page have to say. --barneca (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Given that this page has already been vandalized with the repeated addition of other fictional characters, I agree with you: it is best to limit the list of alumni to the here and now -- and the verifiable. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Lot's of schools articles' have a list of fictional allum. For instance:

• Princeton
• Stanford
• Yale-the list mentions American Psycho character Paul Allen
• Cornell
• Choate Rosemary Hall

71.246.101.46 (talk) 22:30, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I don't have a real concern if a separate section is set up for fictional characters; it's the mixing of real and fictional that I think is no good. Percy, what do you think? --barneca (talk) 22:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you. If the section is designated as 'Fictional alumni,' as it is on the other lists the user cited, I woudn't see that that would present a problem.MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll see if there are any other fictional allum.71.246.101.46 (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

No Edmund Perry? He is certainly notable, in a very sad way. There's an article about him, and the story was highly publicized when it happened. 24.215.160.133 (talk) 08:30, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Notabilty

Repeating the message at the top of this talk page from 4 years ago - unsourced additions will be removed. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

And repeating it again today. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:52, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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I think we should move this page from List of Phillips Exeter Academy alumni to List of Phillips Exeter Academy people. It includes faculty and trustees, so I dont think alumni sufficiently sums up the contents of the article.

Also, I'm adding a fictional alumni part. Please voice any complaints you may have.--Peapod21 (talk) 02:22, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

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