Talk:List of Kenyan records in swimming
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Short course records edit
As of June 2012, a source is needed to indicate that the Kenya Swimming Federation tracks/recognizes short course records. Also the one time currently listed needs verification that it was a record (the source listed verifies only the time, swimmers, date and meet; not that it was actually a record). - Hooperswim (talk) 16:53, 8 June 2012
- This wiki-page is not a copy of KSF-page! It's first and foremost about the fastest times ever swum by a individual from Kenya. These times KSF maintains as records. A time listed as the fastest time needs first verification that it's really swum. If possible and furthermore that it's the fastest time by a Kenyan ever. A new reference about an official faster time then the record currently listed should be able to replace the old time without a verification by KSF. Therefore Wikipedia has a mark (#).Montell 74 (talk) 10:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Montell, the Kenya Swimming Federation is the one that determine's whether or not a swimmer is representing Kenya and verifies if the time counts as the record. My comment above is not a question of whether/not the time was swum: that is what has been documented. What has not been documented is that the swim was a Kenya Record (or that the short-course record even exists for Kenya). You appear to have made an assumption that their are short-course Kenya Records, and you also appear to be doing original research to find the records, which articles must not contain per wiki guidelines. If a citation is found that documents the records exists, and better yet, lists them, this would alleviate most of this. Also, beginning in 2010, Achieng Ajulu-Bushell was a British swimmer: she most likely didn't set a Kenya Record with the swims you have listed from 2010. Please find a source that the short-course records exist. Hooperswim (talk) 20:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yes Hooperswim. Your objections relating to Achieng Ajulu-Bushell are right. I will change her times.
- Montell, the Kenya Swimming Federation is the one that determine's whether or not a swimmer is representing Kenya and verifies if the time counts as the record. My comment above is not a question of whether/not the time was swum: that is what has been documented. What has not been documented is that the swim was a Kenya Record (or that the short-course record even exists for Kenya). You appear to have made an assumption that their are short-course Kenya Records, and you also appear to be doing original research to find the records, which articles must not contain per wiki guidelines. If a citation is found that documents the records exists, and better yet, lists them, this would alleviate most of this. Also, beginning in 2010, Achieng Ajulu-Bushell was a British swimmer: she most likely didn't set a Kenya Record with the swims you have listed from 2010. Please find a source that the short-course records exist. Hooperswim (talk) 20:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- In sports there are often "official" and "unofficial" records. If no citation of verification by KSF can be found, maybe it's better to call them "unofficial". In my opinion nothing is to be said against that KSF doesn't recognise SC records if federation send swimmers to official SC competitions.Montell 74 (talk) 21:14, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- Source found for short course records. They are now on the page. - Hooperswim (talk) 20:06, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Well done!! Thanks Hooperswim.Montell 74 (talk) 21:39, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Source found for short course records. They are now on the page. - Hooperswim (talk) 20:06, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
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