Talk:List of German actors

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Moved without prejudice to a later split.(non-admin closure) Red Slash 19:26, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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List of German actors (from 1895 to the present) → List of German actors – This current title is too long and should be shortened. However, the AFD would make this request less likely to be uncontroversial. George Ho (talk) 06:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Support a move to Lists of German film actors, together with splitting off to create new daughter lists, possibly based on the current sections:

• • List of German silent film actors, based on Category:German silent film actors and Category:German silent film actresses, covering the first two sections of the current article (Early silent era (1895-1918) and Late silent era (1919-1930))
  • List of German film actors (1928-1945) covering the next two sections of the current article (Early sound era (1928-1935) and Third Reich (1933-1945))
  • List of German film actors (FRG), based on the four BRD subsections
  • List of German film actors (GDR), based on the four DEFA subsections
  • List of German film actors (1989-onwards), covering the last two sections (The 1990s and The 2000s)
  • List of German television actors, for the four blue-linked and fourteen red-linked individuals marked as being exclusively TV actors, along with any of the others who mixed film and television

All based on a quick overview of the current article. Green Giant (talk) 10:20, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

But not all actors from the Silent Film Era would be film actors... -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 10:25, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Agreed, but the impression I got from the lead was that the article intended to list film actors - "the year of the first public showing of a motion picture by the Lumière brothers" followed by "the period in which their film careers began" and finally "actors that appear in German movies, including those of foreign origin". No part of that suggests stage or other actors. I have however modified my suggestion to reflect this. Green Giant (talk) 11:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

If it is to be solely film actors, then the title of the list locations should include "film", otherwise, we are not limited to just that for the list contents. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 12:37, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Split apart to periods of German history, pre-unification, from unification to end of German Empire, post WWI to end of WWII, post WWII to German reunification, post reunification. This can then be moved as a list of lists to the proposed title. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 10:25, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

• Comment this is a cut and paste move of something in the article incubator ; check this diff -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 16:26, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

All you needed to do was highlight that there was a previous AFD (in fact there was a second related AFD shortly after the first one). What you shouldn't have done is request a speedy deletion followed by a PROD when there is a distinct possibility of creating encyclopaedic lists. Did you suddenly forget that there is a discussion taking place, or are the comments above made by someone else? Just because in 2007, the deleted article had numerous redlinks does not mean that we can never have such an article again; indeed the majority of links are blue, and there is no objectionable content. So, let the current discussion finish, and let the new smaller lists be created, before we discuss whether the logic of six years ago still applies. Green Giant (talk) 23:03, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

This version is virtually identical to the version that was deleted at AFD previously. Though WP:CCC, you'd need to open a new AFD to determine that. The requested move discussion doesn't even touch upon the fact that this is a repost virtually identical to the deleted version. This is simply a repost of the last deleted version with little changed (compare the diffs on the sandboxed version in the incubator, that this was copied from) The order of men and women was swapped, and the column format was changed, but the lists are the same. That's why {{db-repost}} exists, to handle articles that are the same or almost the same as the deleted version. The current article is also a copyright violation, since it doesn't attribute the contributors from which this was copy-and-pasted from, which does not conform to the CC/GFDL licensing of Wikipedia. The simplest manner to handle the copyright violation is to delete the article, and move the requested move discussion to the talk page of the version in the incubator. -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 04:54, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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Content

Now that this has been renamed to remove the date, this should be expanded to cover all German actors, not just film actors, or it should be renamed again to List of German film actors -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 12:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Virtually all of the articles in Category:Lists of actors by nationality are simply "List of x actors" (IE without the word film), so I've removed the tag. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 16:42, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

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