Talk:Lin Yuwei

Alleged "Censorship"

With regards to the purported censorship of an image of Wu hugging Lin Yuwei after the race with their race numbers ‘six’ and ‘four’ because of its so called allusion to the tianmen square protests, I found three videos from local media outlet accounts on douyin (China's tiktok) that clearly show Wu and Lin beside each other, presenting the numbers 6 and 4 beside each other. western sources claim picture was removed and censored; however, local Chinese media outlets have shared the video/image. the videos have been available for a few days.

1. https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAAGl5tINKrDnASFxZuUBoIAp7X_BYc1ieaW0l_ZN86n4U?modal_id=7284999754512174391 (at the 10 second mark, the image that was purportedly censored is clearly shown) source: Zhejiang Daily

2. https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAAl6JYmBWwiAwBFL_0NeoxwIjLD43oCae8gi0jeh3xRVVVHP5TPEQ2Zhut8OFZ2BSk?modal_id=7284984569730829602 (at the 8 second mark, they're standing beside each other, with the numbers 6 and 4 clearly seen.) Source: Henan Radio and Television Station Elephant News

3. https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAApn6eljS0Xpsle9wlpqS_ZJENB6PI8bB40VxECMCtVfg?modal_id=7284993445582736703 (at the beginning of the video, while they're racing, the numbers 6 and 4 are clearly seen.) source: Hebei Youth Daily Qingdou News

I would recommend removing the info to comply with WP:BLP because the information about censorship is clearly not true. Would like to know how wikipedia deals with a situation where local media outlets in China show the image, but western media claims it was censored. LilAhok (talk) 22:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@LilAhok: I don't think it be considered to be censored when the official Chinese state media sites are showing the pic in their websites. The picture in question was actually taken by Xinhua News Agency (state media) and I also checked a Chinese news media (Guangming Daily) and it shows the picture just fine. The link is: [1] On twitter, there was also community notes showing it's not even censored on Chinese internet as there are multiple places where you can find it by looking up the girl's name.[2] MarKraus (talk) 23:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

So those sources are not very quality given they don't even state their theory with confidence, and either willfully omitted information or mistakenly wrong given the evidence on the contrary. It's double speak speculation or a rushed misunderstanding for saying it's censored when the photo and the numbers 6 and 4, can still be clearly seen today in its entirety on Guangming Daily which I agree should be enough to prove those articles to be wrong about it being censored today, (as it would be contradictory to both claim it's showing in Chinese state media, yet also claim it's censored.)MarKraus (talk) 23:34, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

No explanation of getting rid of CNN, BBC, and Sky sources, when each of them note that Baidu, Weibo, and CCTV have censored the picture. Perhaps those outside China can access the picture on Guangming Daily, however that image is clearly censored within China. OneWordWonder (talk) 08:01, 8 October 2023 (UTC)/del> Blocked sock. Qiushufang (talk) 23:27, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

I found a video on Weibo that shows them hugging each other at the 1:05-1:07 mark of the video (first posted by the Chinese track and field team). the reportedly sensored image of them hugging with the numbers 6 and 4 can be clearly seen. Prior to them hugging, you can see them stand next to each other with the numbes 6 and 4. if a user decides to scroll through the media feed on weibo, they'll find the image on different media posts. https://m.weibo.cn/search?containerid=100103type%3D1%26q%3D%E5%90%B4%E8%89%B3%E5%A6%AE%20%E6%9E%97%E9%9B%A8%E8%96%87#&video

*This is accessible from outside China, however the image is censored within China. OneWordWonder (talk) 14:56, 17 October 2023 (UTC) Blocked sock. Qiushufang (talk) 23:27, 20 October 2023 (UTC)