Talk:Leonidas Pyrgos

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One editor, Nipsonanomhmata (talk · contribs), has been waging a relentless POV agenda campaign across multiple articles for many months, persistently pushing for the idiosyncratic notion that the so-called Zappas Olympics before 1896 should be treated as full instances of modern Olympic Games, and that the term "Modern Olympic Games" should be understood not as everybody else in common English usage understands them (i.e. referring to the games organized by the IOC since 1896). Knowing full well that he has never achieved consensus for any of this in the main articles on these topics, he is now using this article as yet another "coatrack" to promote his thesis [1]. This needs to stop. (Note: I will not be available for a debate about the merits of that thesis here; it has been debated to death elsewhere and N. is fully aware he stands alone against consensus on this.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:48, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Nonsense. The reality of the situation is that Fut Perf has been stalking me from article to article reverting perfectly good edits in a belligerent and oppressive manner. The edit that I made in this article was due to WP:EDITORIAL issues where the article was making fanciful claims about this athlete. I have not pushed any POVs when I made the edit. It is not a"coatrack" and I have not promoted any POV. All I did was tone down the unreferenced claim which had WP:EDITORIAL issues. But ofcourse Fut Perf would have you believe that I am some sort of Olympic activist hell-bent on changing Olympic history. As far as consensus is concerned Fut Perf's perception is yet another concoction to discredit me as an editor and fully inline with their ongoing campaign of stalking, reverting, and discrediting by using obscure Wikipedia terminology as a smokescreen for vindictive behaviour (not just me incidentally, since Fut Perf has persecuted many editors). None of the above having any relevance to the article in question. Nipsonanomhmata (talk) 00:12, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

About the "citation required", although it's clearly a spurious maneuvre (because the facts of the matter are not in dispute): easy. David Wallechinsky (2004), The complete book of the summer Olympics: Athens 2004 edition: "Leon Pyrgos, although a professional, was the first Greek winner of the modern Olympic Games". The claim is also already covered precisely in the citation given now [2]: the first Greek to win an Olympic event since ancient times. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)