Talk:Legal status of Hawaii

Automate archiving?

Does anyone object to me setting up automatic archiving for this page using MiszaBot? Unless otherwise agreed, I would set it to archive threads that have been inactive for 30 days.--Oneiros (talk) 18:05, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 Done--Oneiros (talk) 00:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

There is a personal conflict of interest tag and nothing here on the talk page. I do not feel I should have to do exhaustive research in hope of uncovering this allegation. Would someone care to expound on this some? Otr500 (talk) 00:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

1893 Constitution

The beginning of the History section says:

Liliʻuokalani tried to disenfranchise Americans and Europeans and restore the old monarchy in a new 1893 Constitution....

This is unclear as to whether it refers to Hawaiian-born people of European and American descent, or just resident aliens. It sounds like it refers to both, given the context, but I think it's only true for resident aliens: The 1893 constitution was based primarily on the 1864 Constitution, which I believe did allow Hawaiian-born people of European and American descent to vote. The article on the 1887 Constitution, which would have been repealed, says it "allowed foreign resident aliens to vote, not just naturalized citizens." This implies that the present article should say

Liliʻuokalani tried to disenfranchise American and European resident aliens and restore the old monarchy in a new 1893 Constitution....

I hesitate to put this in myself because I'm not positive. Could someone who knows for sure put this clarification in? Duoduoduo (talk) 16:37, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Since Americans and Europeans are included this would mean those that would otherwise be eligible to vote such as resident citizens or resident aliens. The article section of the the 1893 proposed constitution states, "American and European residents, granted suffrage in 1887, would lose the right to vote.". The article section of the 1887 constitution states, "allowed foreign resident aliens to vote, not just naturalized citizens", so adding "resident aliens" would be correct. It might be easier verify but the entire paragraph has no references. Otr500 (talk) 17:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Parallel Overview

I am temporarily moving this here, to be worked on before reposting. The main problem is the diversity of viewpoints, which are not really captured in a "black and white" analysis. But I'm not throwing it out -- with a little effort, I think we can find a way to make it work. {{hawaii legal status overview}}

Old Edit Sections

Likewise, I am temporarily moving some of the old, tangled edits here so that they can be fixed or cut and pasted, and then moved back into the main article. Mahalo!--Laualoha 00:38, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

That was appearing as an article. I've moved it to Talk:Legal status of Hawaii\old edit sections for legal status of Hawaii page. Nick-D (talk) 00:24, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. --Laualoha 23:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Legal Issues Section and Downward

Alot of this stuff is completely unsourced and extremely biased. I understand the arguments of the Hawaii Sovereignty Movement, but this needs to be completely re-written. Due to the fact that this material is paramount to the subject I think we need to completely rewrite it and source it. ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ 話 ♪} ߷ _{♀ 投稿 ♀} 04:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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Introduction

This is part is worded unclearly: "The legal status of Hawaii is a settled legal matter as it pertains to United States law. Hawaii is internationally recognized as a state of the United States of America. Their argument is that Hawaii is an independent nation under military occupation due to the fact that there is no treaty of annexation between the Hawaiian Kingdom and the United States." Who is they? Aimasterclmaster (talk) 19:41, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Relevant blockquotes belong where?

At the top is how I have always presumed Wikipedia to operate with vital pertinent informational quotes. Please explain the guidelines of appropriate blockquoting if this is not the case. Thank you! 67.8.169.171 (talk) 14:22, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles do not have quotes in the introduction, let alone at the top. This can be seen by visiting other Wikipedia articles. Quotes as primary sources should be used generally when they are important enough that other sources discuss them, and should be included near the text that discusses those quotes. CMD (talk) 14:47, 4 February 2023 (UTC)