Talk:Land Rover Wolf

SNATCH?

Is SNATCH landrover the same vehicle ? Bukvoed 11:18, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes according to [1] and several other sources. Riddley 15:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm certain it doesn't weigh over 10 tonnes..... -- Tomhab 12:03, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

The snatch 1 armoured land rover is not the same vehicle as the wolf, and is based of the earlier 110 chassis (now in TA use) for the conflicts in northern ireland, although the current versions seen in Iraq use 'canabalised' parts from the current wolf series. The newer, but currently rare, snatch 2 land rover IS based of the wolf chasis entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.73.141.172 (talk • contribs)

Agree mostly with unsigned above - SNATCH is NOT the same as a Wolf (officially called TUL/TUM(HS)). SNATCH used in Northern Ireland was V8 110 based with heavy duty chassis. SNATCH now in Iraq / Afghanistan have been modified and fitted with aircon (SNATCH 1.5) or refurbished (SNATCH 2) on new heavy duty chassis with 300Tdi engine from Turkish Land Rover licensee Otokar[2]. This was an official upgrade and parts were not 'canabalised', though there is obviously now greater mechanical commonality and there are some 'cosmetic' similarities eg wheels. Either way they are NOT Wolf/TUM(HS) based as this has a unique chassis and axles; only produced for the Wolf project vehicles. Rob

My meaning of canabalise was the the commonality of parts/cosmetic similarities, i.e. the wheels which are the wolf issue wheels etc. The front side lights and indicators are now the newer domed version seen on the wolf, rather than the old flat 110 style. My mistake regarding the 2 version using the wolf chasis - From the exterior it seemed to resemble the wolf a great deal more than its predecessor.

'Land Rover is being supplemented by the now British built Pinzgauer and the new Alvis Panther in some utility and liaison roles.'

this is untrue - the Panther is still undergoing trials, and the RAF Regiment have returned theirs, citing un-overcomable problems in the vehicles - mainly electronics as I understand it. I would also suggest the WMIK receives its own topic, as the current paragraph is about as vague as one could get on a system that has a far fuller history. I could write a lot on the subject just off the top of my head - Daniel.

WMIK?

Exactly what IS the WMIK? I can hardly understand what it is from this article. Does the Land Rover Wolf have a true turret like the some Humvees? Is the WMIK manually operated or powered?4.237.216.189 16:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

The WMIK appears to be the manufacturer's/user's term for a weapons platform. As the name implies, it's a modification kit to enable the LR to mount weapons. Htra0497 05:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

WMIK stands for Weapons Mount Instalation Kit, generally pronounced Wimik. It is unpowered and is traversed using brute strength, by unlocking two handles either side of the ring, which also aid in traversing the ring and weapon by way of leverage. It is a turret of sorts, but is largely unprotected. It was developed as a heavy weapons platform that could move over rough terrain with speed. A highly modified and stripped down Wolf.

The WMIK has been mounted with a variety of weapons including the GPMG, HMG (50cal), MILAN ATGM and most recently the HK GMG. Apparently, but I can't find sources to comfirm it other than through the circles in which I heard it, a trial was undertaken on mounting a minigun onto the WMIK. This was scrapped due to the power draw on the batteries being too great, and there being a great risk that the battery would flatten totally after firing the weapon. 80.72.157.154 11:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

The MILAN is now removed from official active service with the British military, although the last few rounds were only fired off fairly recently. I'm trying to edit the wording in the WMIK section to reflect that the MILAN used to be mounted all-be-it occasionally, but has since been retired/replaced by the Javelin man portable system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.72.157.154 (talk) 10:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)