Talk:Kaiser-class battleship

Comments

You say that all five were interned in the lead, but that only four were scuttled. What happened to the fifth? Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

That was a screw-up on my part; all 5 were scuttled and sunk (the times are given in the body). Thanks for catching that. Parsecboy (talk) 00:28, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kaiser class battleship/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

I will review the article shortly. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   The description of the armor scheme for the casemate guns is unclear. This began a confused 2 hour long battle between the British destroyers and the German cruiser and destroyer screen, repeatedly at very close range. This doesn't make sense unless it's a typo for reportedly at close range

   I changed it to "frequently", does that make more sense? Parsecboy (talk) 01:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   What is the thickness of the turret face armor?

   Groner's doesn't state what the turret faces were, just the sides and roof. Conway's simply has "turrets: 300-80mm." I'd assume the faces were as thick as the sides--300mm. Parsecboy (talk) 01:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Shell weights for 30.5 cm guns

The quoted shell weight of 666 pounds is totally wrong. Try 894 pounds. http://navalhistory.flixco.info/H/95736x53535/8330/a0.htm http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_12-50_skc12.htmRcbutcher (talk) 15:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I've corrected the article. MV looks suspect too. Rcbutcher (talk) 15:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, that was apparently a screw up reading the table in Conway's. The 666lb figure, along with the muzzle velocity, are actually for the 28cm guns on the Nassau class/Von der Tann. I've updated the muzzle velocity accordingly. Thanks for catching that. Parsecboy (talk) 16:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Photo

The picture from the Kiel week is not a Kaiser class ship, that can be clearly seen from the superstructure. If you click on the picture it says it is the "Rheinland" which seems reasonable.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarhunnas (talk • contribs)

No, that is not correct. The photo is the battleship Kaiser - see the discussion here for starters. Also, compare the photo to this photo of Kaiser, and this actual photo of Rheinland; you should be able to see quite clearly the different superstructure on Rheinland. Lastly, compare the bow crest to this photo of Kaiser, you can see that it is identical; Rheinland's crest is similar but not the same (note for instance Kaiser's crest is upright, while Rheinland's is canted to one side). Parsecboy (talk) 16:41, 14 August 2012 (UTC)