Talk:John Stafford (American politician)

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Contrawwftw in topic Sources from University of Maryland Archives

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"Stafford, a faithful returned Catholic, opposes abortion and slot machine casino gambling, inter alia, and therefore received no funding from the Republican Party because a majority of its current top leaders are pro-abortion and pro-slot machine gambling."

This strikes me as false, can we get some fact-checking done on this? - TheWama

POV-check edit

This article strikes me as one of the most partial I have come across on Wikipedia. Consider the following extracts (quotes in italics) from the latest revision at time of writing oldid=50830222:

  • because of thr hard-Left and actively pro-abortion direction the Democrat top 'leaders' took in recent decades
"hard-left"??? That's not how many Democrtas would characterise their party's stance
  • taking over $100 million in bribes and 'campaign contributions' from the "Murder, Inc." abortion business
bribes?? any evidence of this, is campaign funding from people you don't like a bribe
"Murder, Inc."??? That's not how the pro-abortion people (or heir millions of clients) view abortion clinics
  • which has killed 46 million innocent unborn children since 1973
a neutral summary of the abortion debate?
  • the mass-murderous Roe v. Wade
"mass murderous2???
  • This is my favourite: (Reagan is the only President to write a book against abortion, a fact which was unappreciated by the grossly derelict in multiple ways US bishops of the Catholic Church. Unlike far too many of them, Stafford is a faithful Catholic Christian who actually believes the Bible and obeys God's laws.)
The Catholic bishops would take a very different view of that.

I have therfore reverted to the last good version, oldid=32246251 --BrownHairedGirl 02:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)Reply


Reformatting and cleaning up (Part 1) edit

Hi from a new Wiki. I am trying my hand at various tasks to get the hand of it. I attempted to clean up the page as per the suggestion on the clean up pages. I have given it a go. I put the existing content into sections and added what information I could source online, which frankly wasn’t much.

Most of the content is unsubstantiated by the original author and I could not find the biographical detail online to support it. However I don't feel confident deleting someone else's work totally. Also, there are abbreviations such as SGA that I don’t understand. I have fixed up the more obvious ones such as ‘Nam’. I will copy this into the discussion page. Hoipe that is all okay with you. Cheers.

Some of the other text such as “Cherry Pt. MCAS and NAVARA and the Navy JAG Investigations Division and TBS” is quite baffling to me. As well as some of the US political references. Hopefully my attempt at reformatting and some editing of the content is helpful for somebody else to pick up the next stage of fixing the article and verifying the content. I have added the useful sources I found. I could not find the case laws cited online. The original author links didn’t lead anywhere.

Not being an American, I couldn’t really understand much of it (and don't have any biad of my own here). However, I would expect a clear article to be clear to all readers, regardless of their location. With good links they should be able to inform themselves of anything in the article they are unfamiliar with. Hopefully (I’m new at this) I have the right end of the stick.

Still a lot of work needed - for someone with a bit more knowledge than me perhpas. Jen Powell-Psmith 13:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

  • I've now added the not verified tag to check content. For the record,I did a fairly thorough online check and couldn't confirm most of it. The references I found are in the article.
  • This article is out of date the 2006 elections were held 4 months ago. A look at the candidates for the Maryland senate race doesn't show him as even running in the primary. Granted, he may have dropped out before the primary, but either way, the information is inaccurate and out of date. --Lendorien 17:50, 2 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
  • I have been able to confirm that he was Cheif Administrative Law Judge for Dept of the Interior under reagan. Found an article from 2000 that mentions it. But I can find no source for the court cases or anything else.--Lendorien 14:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Take self-sources with a grain of salt edit

I'm working on adding more reliable sources to this article. Just wanted to make other editors aware that, if this article is anything to go by Stafford has a habit of embellishing. So anything that sourced directly from him and not fact-checked should be taken with a grain of salt. Contrawwftw (talk) 00:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Sources from University of Maryland Archives edit

I emailed the archives at University of Maryland to get some clarification about Stafford's time there. I received a lot of information that's not available online so I'm going to source it. I received images but I'm not sure what the copyright is so I don't know if I'm free to upload them. I've emailed back to ask.

I also received information about where to find information about Stafford's work. The Diamondback is fully digitised. And the radio records can be requested via Aeon, their archive request service.

I'd like to thank Maureen Jones at Hornbake Library for her help. Contrawwftw (talk) 00:23, 5 August 2021 (UTC)Reply