Talk:Jens Orback

Latest comment: 9 years ago by 80.217.118.240 in topic Is this quote accurate?

Is this quote accurate? edit

Hi,

On the page there is a quote: "We must be open and generous to Islam and Muslims so that when we (Swedes) are the minority, they will do the same to us." I have some doubts about it. I was searching for it's accuracy and it is endlessly repeated on extreme right-wing and homophobe sites, but could not find it elsewhere. The wikipedia article says it comes from a meeting with the Immigration Ministers, the sites say it comes from an debate. http://www.islam-watch.org/Fjordman/Sweden-alliance-with-Communist-Islamists.htm

I don't speek Swedish but the original Sweedish quote from a Swedish right-wing site is: "Vi måste vara öppna och toleranta mot islam och muslimerna för när vi blir i minoritet kommer de att vara det mot oss." [1] Various dictionaries translate the word "när" also as “if, in case, provided that”. That would give the sentence a very different meaning than when it is translated as "when".

So, could anyone check the veracity of the meaning of the quote?

Mihai Martoiu Ticu (talk) 07:01, 1 November 2011 (UTC)Reply


"När" does in fact mean "when", not "if". As for the veracity of the quote, there seems to be no actual source. The closest thing I've found is a snippet of an interview (sorry, no link) where Orback says, re tolerance of minorities, "we might be a minority some day". It was an offhand remark, and he didn't elaborate on how Swedes could become a minority in Sweden. 80.217.118.240 (talk) 12:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

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