Talk:Jeffrey Lieberman

Latest comment: 2 years ago by ScienceFlyer in topic Criticism

OTRS edit

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I am employed as a Research Scientist by the New York State Psychiatric Institute (NYSPI), at the Columbia University Medical Center (CUMC). As part of my duties, I work as an editor in the Department of Psychiatry in CUMC. The material I am contributing is biographical material about faculty members in the Department, whom I know personally, as they are my colleagues. The material consists of facts contained in the profiles of faculty members that appear on the Department's website. All of the faculty members have reviewed and approved the content I am submitting.

The material does not express a point of view or an opinion with respect to the profiles of the faculty. Rather, as noted above, it consists only of facts about the faculty. Psychiatry777 (talk) 20:37, 23 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

External links edit

Articles should not have external links in the middle of the text. It's far better to link to the Wikipedia article (if one exists), or to use these links as reliable sources (if that's the point), or to just have plain old text. Wikipedia is not a web directory, so we don't try to provide links to (e.g.,) academic journals just to prove that they exist. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

I think I removed most of those. Thank you for mentioning that. -SusanLesch (talk) 17:18, 26 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Criticism edit

There are unattributed opinions in the article stated in Wikipedia's voice, this is completely unacceptable. I have tagged the article for several problems but the hagiographic style and unattributed dismissal of criticism about Lieberman's role in the death of Dan Markingson is most egregious. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

The "article" is just one big advert for the subject and should be deleted or substantially rewritten, with appropriate references to reliable sources to support notability. At the moment, it has one.--ukexpat (talk) 17:39, 10 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm concerned about the entire Controversy section of this page. Are his industry connections more glaring or important than those of any other high-level clinical researcher? A section documenting his various disclosures over time seems quite odd. Likewise with the "Criticism" subsection, which seems written as if by someone with a personal vendetta. I also couldn't find any indication of "criticism from an ex-patient" in the links present, and am unsure of notability if it were there. The sentence about "remov[ing] anti-psychotic drugs from patients" also attributes direct action to him rather than involvement in a research study, but the sentence has been reverted before and I don't want an edit war. Jhgtg (talk) 03:56, 23 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Tweet from 21 February 2022

I've edited the tweet citations to be in the proper Cite Tweet format. Because this section appears to be a hot-button issue, I'm opening up the conversation here on the talk page to prevent vandalism in the edits. For reference, the comment I included in my last edit, which undid an edit omitting the tweet controversy, stated the following to kick us off here: Wikipedia allows tweets as sources so long as the criteria at WP:TWITTER are met. Because the cited tweets refer exclusively to Dr. Lieberman's own original tweet, in which he is speaking only on events related to himself, these citations are acceptable. Further debate should occur on the talk page, not in the edits. Cogitamus Credimus (talk) 02:22, 23 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Please remove this section unless something citable under WP:RS can be used. As emphasized in WP:BLP, "Contentious material about living persons [...] that is unsourced or poorly sourced [...] should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." This clearly qualifies. ScienceFlyer (talk) 03:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)Reply