Why use a German language link to cite that Rawles authored the Patriots book? edit

There appears to be no editorial reason to use a link to a German language newspaper to provide reference[1] to a sentence claiming something as simple as the fact that Rawles is known as the author of the Patriots book. Why use a German language link for something so simple? SaltyBoatr (talk) 04:35, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

I wondered about this myself. While wikipedia accepts non-english language sources, we do prefer english language ones if they are available. I would think we could find an English language source for this. Blueboar (talk) 14:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
I was merely trying to retain a useful reference to Rawles's work, that Salty had zapped elsewhere. (See the accompanying discussion.) It is ironic that the same editor who claims that there are insufficient second party sources about Rawles's writings is also the same one that is so busy at zapping references at every available opportunity. Two weeks ago, this article had more than 70 references. Trasel (talk) 15:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Trasel should explain this himself, but when he explained earlier his edit summary implied, (I think), that he is trying to POV push the notability of the author by inference because this ref is found in "Germany's largest-circulating newspaper.". In my opinion, for Trasel to do this type of inference amounts to improper synthesis and POV push. Trasel has self declared his advocacy to advance conservative politics in Wikipedia. Indeed, I see this as a pattern of editor behavior, seeking to load in excessively redundant and tenuous referencing to the articles that he edits to create an appearance to casual readers that the his favorite conservative issue articles are well sourced. But when you actually check the references you see that many or most are chafe: not pertinent, non-reliable, not independent and WP:SYN. This is a form POV pushing, that Trasel himself has compared to "greener pastures (at) Conservapedia". SaltyBoatr (talk) 15:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Don't put words int my mouth, Salty. I mentioned my plans on RETIRING from WP because I want to find a more neutral editing environment. Wikiipedia has a preponderantly liberal bias that has been well documented by folks like David Gerrold. Oh but don't look for it on his Talk page. That discussion was swept under the rug, by some Teflon-coated editor. Nothing embarrassing sticks in Wikipedia. Trasel (talk) 15:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Instead of putting words in your mouth, I invited you to explain, but you didn't. While, just below you accuse me of being politically inspired, putting words in my mouth. You describe several prior AfD "campaigns" as unsuccessful politically inspired, but neglect to mention your repeated improper politically skewed canvassing of conservative blogs during those AfD discussions. And, it is interesting that you consider that Conservapedia has a more neutral editing environment than Wikipedia, really? I guess it is a matter of perspective. Wikipedia is designed to allow editors with different points of view to edit collaboratively though adherence of a number of policies and codes of conduct which I encourage you to review because they offer a solution to this complaint our yours. SaltyBoatr (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
I get the impression that you use the word "neutral" in the same way that Congress uses "Bi-partisan" (meaning "you agree to do it my way"). Blueboar (talk) 16:32, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
No I use the word "neutral" to mean neutral. I have spent nearly four years attempting to to CREATE new content at Wikipedia. Several of the articles that I started have been targets of unsuccessful, politically-inspired AfD campaigns. Those alone have wasted dozens of hours of my time. I can now say that I'm tired of wasting my time here. I have reached my limit. I'm retiring, TODAY. You and your cabal can go celebrate, Salty. You've driven off another editor, with your tendentious editing and wiki-lawyering. Adios!!!


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This user is no longer active on Wikipedia.Trasel (talk) 16:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Well, it is your right to leave if you wish to. No one can force anyone to edit. Hope you find an atmosphere more to your liking elsewhere. Blueboar (talk) 22:22, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

User:Trasel (a.k.a. User:TheAmericanRedoubt) has tried to link spam both Wikipedia and Consevapedia on behalf of Mr. Rawles. Hlevy2 (talk) 23:24, 1 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Too much first person account edit

This article relies too much on what Rawles says about himself, rather than third-party accounts for context and perspective. It needs to be edited to reduce quotes from him, as well as too much detail about book publishing history. This is unusual in terms of articles about writers.Parkwells (talk) 19:27, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply


This article was written by Jim Rawles. Please Mark for deletion - notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.46.77.167 (talk) 04:50, 5 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Even a cursory overview of the edit history would show that's not the case. ButlerBlog (talk) 19:37, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

COI Tag edit

I just noticed that someone added a Conflict of Interest tag to the top of this article. This article has been extant for ten years, and I only recently jumped in to correct some errors. Since I've only made edits to a few lines of this lengthy article, and since nearly every assertion in the article is well-sourced from print media publications (heavily footnoted), I do not agree that I'm "A major contributor to this article..." I respectfully request that this tag be removed. James Wesley, Rawles (talk) 21:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

The aforementioned COI flag has been up since December of 2015, without any legitimate justification. I again request that it be removed. James Wesley, Rawles (talk) 13:49, 23 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
It has been removed since there have been more than 1250 edits to the article and only 30ish have been you. However, it should go without saying that you should avoid editing it at all given your self-identified (and obvious) COI. ButlerBlog (talk) 19:39, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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