Talk:Jacques Balmat
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Sapphorain in topic Kingdom of Sardinia
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Jacques Balmat (1762-1834) was savoisien. The Duchy of Savoy became french in 1860, until this date was integrant part of Kingdom of Piemont-Sardaigne "Sardinia" that in 1860 became Kingdom of France . All his historical heritage is part of the italian history . In Savoy , french history is starting after 1861. --Shardan 16:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- His name is French, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.95.162 (talk) 18:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- "Savoy was occupied by French revolutionary forces between 1792 and 1815. The region was first added to the département of Mont-Blanc, then in 1798 was divided between the départements of Mont-Blanc and Léman (French name of Lake Geneva.)" - From the Wikipedia article on Savoy. So it appears that Balmat lived in territory that was French for 23 years of his life. His name is French and he spoke French. Is it proper to call Savoy "Italian"? I know that the kings had Italian names and PART of the territory spoke Italian, but was there an "Italian" nationality at that time? Is it not more correct to say that Balmat was Savoyard and French? Jim Heaphy (talk) 04:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- France was occupied by Hitler between 1940 and 1944: I do not think that French people born during nazist occupation should be considered as germans. Same think for Sardinian people from Kingdom of Sardinia born during Napoleonic occupation. Savoy become french in 1860. Before was part of Kingdom of Sardinia, later Kingdom of Italy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.27.239.34 (talk) 15:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
The thoughts of British Ambassadors to Savoy anent Balmat? edit
One would think all those British Ambassadors to Savoy must of had something to say down the years? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.184.220 (talk) 06:37, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Kingdom of Sardinia edit
Category:People from the Kingdom of Sardinia is a subcategory of Category:People by region in Italy for quite a while. And Italians were an ethnic group long before the 19th-century unification. Dimadick (talk) 11:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Certainly. But a large part of the Kingdom of Sardinia was inhabited by an ethnic groups which was never considered as Italian. The Kingdom of Sardinia did not become a part of Italy as a whole in 1865, a large part of it joined France. Convenience is never an excuse for imprecision and anachronism. --Sapphorain (talk) 13:06, 13 March 2021 (UTC)