Talk:Ivan Moody
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Paine Ellsworth in topic Requested move 3 November 2020
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Start of article: "born January 7, 1975" Personal Life: "Although born in Denver, Colorado on January 7, 1980," There is a discrepancy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.34.51 (talk) 01:13, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
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I added a Notability template. Specificially, I can't find any evidence of the 2004 "Hit Parader" Award other than the mention on what appears to be a site run by the subject of the article himself. Also, the entry for "Motograter," (the band that supposedly won the award) doesn't even mention a "Hit Parader" award. Meghann 03:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Removing the notability tag, as any person knows that Blabbermouth.net is NOT run by Ivan Moody, but run by Borivoj "Bori" Krgin. -- Shatterzer0 04:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Requested move 3 November 2020 edit
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
 | It was proposed in this section that Ivan Moody (vocalist) be renamed and moved to Ivan Moody.
result: This is template {{subst:Requested move/end}} |
Ivan Moody (vocalist) → Ivan Moody – See the page views in the last 30 days for the vocalist (30,981 views) and the composer (127 views) -- BlueJag (talk) 01:14, 3 November 2020 (UTC) —Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 04:20, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:52, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- @BlueJag and Necrothesp: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:53, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. Hardly uncontroversial. Not exactly incredibly well-known. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:51, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Primary topic isn't just about page views, but also about long-term significance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:34, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose in books the composer is far more significant. [1] obviously the lead vocalist of a heavy metal band is going to get more hits than a composer, which is why Primary Topic is not based on page views. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:37, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. Zero benefit to the change, and will require link changes, and will break offsite and downstream uses. Leave as is. An ambiguous basename title should not be a reward for more recent pageviews. With both disambiguated, no reader will get the wrong biography. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:49, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support. This is a WP:TWODABS situation and the reason we have hat notes. -- Calidum 21:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
- TWODABS only applies where there is a clear primary topic. There isn't one here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:08, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support per Calidum. The DAB page is viewed more than the composer, indicating the current setup isn't what readers want. The singer gets 99% of pageviews my count. This is a very obvious primary topic. Nohomersryan (talk) 05:12, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support per above. Whatever long-term significance the composer has, it can't outweigh a 99-1 pageview advantage for the singer article. Why make things unnecessarily more difficult on our readers and editors? Dohn joe (talk) 16:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support per the enormous difference in page views. As Calidum says, this is a WP:TWODABS situation. kennethaw88 • talk 04:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.