Talk:Ire Works

DEP are not mathcore. Their myspace says "Metal/Hardcore/Progressive," thus making progressive metal much more accurate.

I like to call myself an extremely talented golfer, doesn't mean it's true. They can call themselves what they like, but the guys aren't progressive metal by any stretch of the imagination. Cheers. The KZA 22:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you even listening to what they're playing? Or do you just hear "wierd tyme signachoors lol" and assume that they're a mathmatical band? Your ears obviously can't translate what's actually being played - which is, quite frankly, more progressive than most bands like Dream Theater. It's obviously just a wall of noise to you - in a few years you ears might develop a bit, ey? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noneofthemknew (talk • contribs) 13:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

There's no way they're prog metal. Just no way. They aren't even anything remotely close. In your eyes Meshuggah, Dillinger, Dream Theater and Queensryche should all be lumped together?--GongAYong 13:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't the place for fanboys arguing who "gets the band" more. The fact is, you provide no rationale behind your claims at all and you'll be hard pressed to find someone that will agree that the Dillinger Escape Plan are a progressive metal band. I agree the term "mathcore" is a bit corny, but it is what it is. The KZA 23:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

You see, myspace gives each band 3 different options for genre, and "mathcore" isn't one of them. Thats why generally you will find that myspace bands have 3 listed genre names. Mathcore is a progressive form of Metalcore, but I def would not call them progressive metal, it just doesn't describe them properly, and I love the term mathcore as they are definitely one of the leaders of the so-called genre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.44.16.10 (talk) 12:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Dillinger are definitely not what I would call prog metal. Bands that are hard to determine their genre usually pioneer a new style, but instead of the fans respecting that and praising the band for being that original, they gotta stick with the mainstream and label everything prog metal. If that's the rules you want to go with, fine, but at the end of the day, bands like Dillinger are mathcore. —Vanishdoom (talk) 21:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Just because it's progressive metal doesn't mean it sounds like Dream Theater or Queensryche. The key word here is PROGRESSIVE. If it stays sounding exactly the same as these bands, then that's not progression. Dillinger Escape Plan take something of the metal genre and push it, warp it, play with it - they PROGRESS it. Thus, progressive metal.

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Profesional reviews and ratings

Please see WP:ALBUM#Professional reviews, which says not to use star ratings for album reviews which don't use them. Also note that reviews should be listed alphabetically and magazines must appear italicized. Have a nice day, rogues. Chinese lucky strike 23:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't say anything about not using star ratings at all. They are optional and are generally encouraged for use in articles. Anything outside of a 5-point of 10-point rating scale is what they're referring to. —Vanishdoom 02:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Please, read well WP:ALBUM#Professional reviews's third paragraph, it says:

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Thanks Chinese lucky strike 13:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Where's the alphabetical order? Synesthetize (talk) 03:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Sampling of Harry Partch?

I am almost positive that the track "When Acting as a Particle" is sampled from Harry Partch. Listen to it and compare to the music at the beginning of this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mOHBqFevy0k

Does anybody have any information about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.137.22.212 (talk) 09:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Greg playing guitar?

So I think there's a bit of confusion regarding the guitar work. The article says that Ben played all the guitars on this album, but Greg is also listed as the Rhythm guitarist. Why is that? Did he actually play guitar on the album, or is this just a big piece of misinformation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ICommandeth (talk • contribs) 03:39, 10 December 2019 (UTC)