Talk:I Want to Tell You

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 17:18, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I will be reviewing this against the GA criteria as part of a GAN sweep. I'll leave some comments soon. JAGUAR  17:18, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Jag. Thanks for taking this one – looking forward to your review. JG66 (talk) 19:02, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Jaguar, sorry to hassle but any chance of a review sometime soon? Having said that, I'm only going to have limited time over Xmas/New Year so perhaps it's best to wait. (In other words, I'm really posting here to ensure that the review's still "alive" – that one of us has posted something here recently!) No rush, as far as I'm concerned. Best, JG66 (talk) 02:43, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

@JG66: I'm so sorry, I completely forgot about this! I've never done that to a review before! I have no idea how I could have missed doing this. I'll finish the review today. Again, my apologies! JAGUAR  09:49, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Disambiguations: No links found.

Linkrot: No linkrot found in this article.[1]

Checking against the GA criteria

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   "and on Lennon's "Rain"" - this has already been linked

   "as to what he wanted to call the track." - there is a harvref error at the end of this sentence

   "The Beatles taped the main track" - how about recorded, unless taped is the preferred term to use?

   "The band recorded five takes of the song before Harrison selected take 3 for further work" - how about The band recorded five takes of the song before Harrison selected the third take for further work (feel free to ignore)

   Just to point out that the book Eight Arms to Hold You: The Solo Beatles Compendium isn't used anywhere in the article

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   No original research found. AGF for offline sources

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   NPOV

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

This is an excellent article. It is well written, comprehensive, and the sources all check out. I could only check the online sources but couldn't find any issues there. I knew that this would pass outright when I first read it! Again I must apologise for the late review, I accidentally checked this one off a couple of weeks ago. JAGUAR  11:20, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Jaguar, thanks so much, you're too kind. I really hope I didn't rush you. I've been working on the article for the parent album, Revolver, and it just dawned on me today: hang on, haven't I got one of these songs nominated for GA?! With those issues you raised, I'll remove the 2nd link for "Rain" and Madinger & Easter from the list of sources; and (thank you) I've just corrected the Turner ref error you mentioned. Will change to "third take" as you suggest, unless anything else comes to light (I'm thinking: could be a mention thereabouts of first or second something or other, and me wanting to avoid another ordinal – I'm not sure). "Taped" strikes me as a possible keep, because of the variation in wording it gives from "recording/recorded", not to mention the implication (if a reader needs it) that all recording was analogue during this era … Again, big thanks Jag. Go well, JG66 (talk) 13:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thanks for understanding! It came as a shock to me this morning when I realised I left an unfinished review this late LOL. Again, excellent work with this. I agree with you with keeping "taped", as this was an analogue era and seems to give the reader more of a variety. JAGUAR  13:52, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Bass error

Mark Lewisohn claims that "I Want to Tell You" was the first song where Paul recorded his bassline as an overdub, but that is wrong, because the first Beatles song where he overdubbed his bass part was actually Michelle. 110.175.229.57 (talk) 09:20, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

You've missed what it is exactly that Lewisohn and several other authors identify as a Beatle "first". It's not the act of overdubbing a bass part per se, it's the overdubbing of a bass onto its own track, quite separate from the basic/rhythm track performance, and late in the recording process. As the article states, the bass was the final overdub. It's that combination that served as a precedent for McCartney's approach on Sgt. Pepper. JG66 (talk) 10:28, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorry I thought it was the first ever song where Paul overdubbed bass separately - my mistake - but I didn't realize it was an overdub of the bass onto a track of the tape in its own right. I know that Paul mostly preferred to overdub his bass last during the Sgt. Pepper sessions and by then, he clearly liked the Rickenbacker 4001S, which had largely sent the Hofner 500/1 into retirement until the Let it Be sessions. 110.175.229.57 (talk) 05:37, 1 October 2018 (UTC)