Talk:Hydnellum ferrugineum/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 15:57, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy to offer a review.

• Do we know Schröter's full name? Worth a redlink?

• Full name given and linked. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• "hydnaceous" is unexplained jargon

• Swapped with equivalent hydnoid fungus and linked. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• I'm struggling to follow Banker's slightly convoluted language- could you double-check the quote?

• The text is correct as quoted; I think it's his use of "as" instead of "because" which makes it sound odd. I could just put into my own words if you think that would help. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• Looking again, it's actually clear to me, so I wouldn't worry! J Milburn (talk) 10:28, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

• Is "stalk" worth linking in this case? I also note that you switch from "stalk" to "stipe".

• Now "stipe", and linked. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• Do you have a source for the inedibility?

• Done. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• "protuberances" is a little jargony. "thin-walled" is perhaps also unclear.

• Done. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• Would "coniferous woodland" not be preferred to "conifer woods"? This may be a dialectical difference.

• Switched. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• Another jargon issue: For people who are neither biologists nor gardeners, "poor soil" is a slightly mysterious phrase.

• Now explained. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• "stipitate hydnoid fungi" Jargon?

• Glossed meaning. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• "These areas generally lack dwarf shrubs, promote the vigorous growth of mosses, and reindeer lichens in the center of large mats." Unclear?
• "The presence of the fungus changes the nature of the soil: it has a thinner humus layer, slows groundwater penetration, decreases the soil pH, and increases the level of root respiration as well as the quantity of roots." Also unclear- I think you shift the focus of the sentence from the fungus to the soil and back again.

• I copyedited these last two sentences – are they ok now? Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• So, to be clear, this is simultaneously mycorrhizal and saprotrophic?

• Maybe, but more information is needed ... it's known as ectomycorrhizal with saprotrophic characteristics: "The morphological colonization of fine roots of Scots pine (Pinus sylvestris L.) by H. ferrugineum, with normal EcM formation at the leading edge of the fungal mat and the atrophy and death of colonized roots at the trailing edge of the fungal mat [120], indicates a type of EcM formation that shows saprotrophic characteristics as the mat advances and leaves behind a zone of formerly colonized soil." However, this is only based on limited studies, and with only one type of tree host, so it would be premature to make any general conclusions. Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• Sources generally look great- the only little comment is that you sometimes include translations for non-English titles but sometimes do not.

• Yeah, I put the translated titles in when they were readily available, but did not attempt to translate the others on my own .... Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Generally very strong, as ever. I'll be happy to promote once the above issues have been dealt with. I assume you realise that the lead image has been nominated for FP status? J Milburn (talk) 15:57, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks for reviewing. I did notice the FPC; it reminded me that I had a half-finished draft on this species waiting to be completed! Sasata (talk) 18:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

• Happy with the fixes, so I'm going to go ahead and promote. On the subject of FPs, there are a couple of recently promoted images with slightly substandard articles, if you're looking for something to work on- Stereum hirsutum is a stub, and Panaeolus semiovatus var. semiovatus is a start-class probably in need of merging. I intended to take a look at them myself (eventually...) but I certainly wouldn't object to you beating me there. J Milburn (talk) 10:38, 20 December 2014 (UTC)