Talk:Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 2601:283:8201:25F0:2D8A:9275:1626:C59C in topic False claims of authorship

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The article centres on the overthrow.com view that, even if it wasn't copyrighted, it's not encyclopedic. The rest of the article needs some re-writing. Mariano(t/c) 10:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Brakes all and every rules of NPOV. I'll give it a cleanup. --80.172.138.35 17:31, 14 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

I'd like to tackle this, but not today. If anyone is interested in cleaning, it's worth noting that Paladin Press has a statement about the case in its FAQ: http://www.paladin-press.com/faq.aspx I'm trying to find a trustworthy source for the "Florida Housewife" story. Every site I've found references it, but never with a name or any identifying detail. Jordoh 23:41, 18 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

FWIW Professor Carlton Larson of UC Davis School of Law told this story in Constitutional Law II.
I recall that the author was female, and that portions of the book include over the top anti-woman sentiment (Larson read excerpts) to potentially disguise this fact. My memory is fuzzy, but I seem to recall that the author did a fair amount of research... more of a struggling/frustrated writer using a gimmick to sell the book, could have easily interviewed law enforcement or a host of other people as a source.
I also heard, from Larson, that the book was basically released into the public domain by accident. It's quite possible the publisher is spreading misinformation since IIRC anyone can copy, print, and sell it with impunity. Anyways, I suggest someone contact Larson and see if he has a source. 96.231.186.195 (talk) 04:53, 27 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

flordia housewife edit

i personally think that the florida housewife part was made up to descourage people from reading the book. anyone who read the book noticed that the book gives VERY valuable information.

A&E cable channel had a show on this and mentioned the housewife story but with no further details on the real author. The court case is also very interesting going all the way to the supreme court, but this article does not mention that. Also uses POV term profiting.
i was under the impression that this book contains photos of a how-to on silencers. can someone confirm or deny this? it is highly unlikely that florida housewife would happen to have these pictures laying around.
It does contain photos of homemade silencers, and even a photo of such device attached to a rifle.

more than one crime? edit

There has only ever been one case where the book was associated with a crime, in that case the criminal had recently finished a lengthy prison sentence and had a history of prior violent crime.

In light of this [1], the above statement should probably be removed. I'm going to change it. Ud terrorist 17:27, 20 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merged edit

All of the information at Hit Man manual had been transfered to this page. I've turned that page into a redirect and leaving this as the main article. Ud terrorist 15:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Copyright status / External links edit

See Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking_to_copyrighted_works which covers policy on linking to copyrighted material. It seems that links to online versions of the book violate this policy. — ERcheck (talk) 16:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

I believe, as it says in the article, that the copyright reverts back to the author. Unless you one can show otherwise — that it was released into the public domain by the author — according to Wikipedia policy above, it should not be re-linked. — ERcheck (talk) 00:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
Though one e-book site says the book is in the public domain when Paladin gave up rights, that is a self-serving statement. From the article (though it needs citation), the rights revert to the author. — ERcheck (talk) 00:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)Reply
The Paladin Press article indicates that, though online publisher have claimed it is in the public domain, Paladin says the rights go to the author. The citation to that article goes to the U.S. Government listing of copyrights [2], which shows that Feral, Rex has rights to this work. — ERcheck (talk) 00:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

In any case even if the book is in public domain it makes the distributors potentially accessory to any murder/homicide committed because of it.I am sure wikipedia does not desire to be in the same posistion as paladin even though the book is hosted externally no link should be provided here therefore i am removing the link.Manquer (talk) 14:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

  • If someone committed a murder following a book like Joey the Hitman: The Autobiography of a Mafia Killer by Joey Fisher and David Fisher by a more "mainstream" publisher, would the publisher be sued? I cannot escape the impression that Paladin Press was sued because they are Paladin Press.Naaman Brown (talk) 14:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

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False claims of authorship edit

A reddit commenter is trying to win an argument based on a misunderstanding of a crappy article. Nancy Brophy is NOT the author, she wrote "How to Murder Your Husband" not "Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors" 174.165.86.139 (talk) 19:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hey sorry, I'm the one who added the linkage in both directions from Murder of Daniel Brophy to here. I just saw that the name of the authors was the same and went for it, which was a little hasty. Not sure what reddit argument you are referencing; for what it's worth I heard about these articles from a HackerNews post yesterday 2023-04-10 and saw someone who had commented that they were the same author. The "real name" was already here and I just have a perverse need to create links out of plain text wherever possible and trust the process. Sorry for all the hassle and thanks for cleaning it up. Seems like the actual name of the author is still unknown and unsourced so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:283:8201:25F0:2D8A:9275:1626:C59C (talk) 18:19, 11 April 2023 (UTC)Reply