Talk:History of political thought

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Fubitobe in topic Serious problems with this entry

Entire article belongs in "History of Political Philosophy" edit

I do not see how the "history of political thinking" is, or should be, separate from the "history of political philosophy (aka political theory)". This should be obvious from the fact that, as of this writing each section references either "political philosophy" or "theory". Absent any evidence to the contrary, I would recommend this article should be deleted and its contents collapsed into "history of political philosophy". MrLou (talk) 02:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

History of political philosophy is a disambiguation page that links here, so I'm not quite sure what you're getting at -- are you asking to move the page? In academia this discipline is usually known as "history of political thought". --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 15:57, 9 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Requested move edit

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The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 16:52, 9 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

History of political thinkingHistory of political thought – History of political thought is the generally accepted name for this discipline, see this textbook series: http://www.cambridge.org/gb/knowledge/series/series_display/item3937337/?site_locale=en_GB; academic department: http://www.qmul.ac.uk/hpt/; undergraduate module: http://www.york.ac.uk/politics/current-students/ug-study/ug-modules/hpt/; academic journal: http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/imp/hpt. Compare with the almost non-existent results for history of political thinking. - blake- 09:01, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

  • Support. Ugghhh...rid us of this abomination. —  AjaxSmack  23:56, 2 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
  • Support. Per nom, "political thought" does seem the more common. ╠╣uw [talk] 01:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Major revisions... who's with me? edit

I'm interested in helping majorly rewrite this article as per its multiple issues tag. It seems primarily that the article could be much better sourced, incorporate more non-western perspectives, and cover medieval thought better. Clearly this is a major undertaking, so I'm interested in seeing if anyone else has this on their watchpage or has stumbled across this, and is interested in contributing. I may just start a draft version in my userspace... I'll let you know if I do that. Reply here if you'd like to help out. - - mathmitch7 (talk/contribs) 01:25, 20 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Serious problems with this entry edit

As noted there are multiple problems with this page. First of all, the core is focused on a history of Western political thought. The addition of a section on Islamic political thought does not solve the problem. Islamic thought did emerge from ancient political thought as discussed in the existing article but it defines ancient thought in a Western (European) sense. This raises the second point, it is completely missing Indian and East Asian political thought, which should be in the ancient section parallel to ancient Greek and Roman thought. Thirdly, the periodization itself is biased toward Western categories. One can make a case for Medieval as a period in all areas of the world but after the 15th century, this is problematic. Finally, there is a distinction between the 'history of political thought', 'political thought' and 'political philosophy'. It is an academic one and I do not agree with it but it makes it difficult to merge similar pages without careful thought. The 'history of political thought' looks at the emergence of political ideas in the form they take and at the time when they emerge. 'Political thought' tends to be used more ahistorically, such as 'democracy', 'freedom', etc. as generic concepts. 'Political philosophy' is much more focused on philosophical approaches to political ideas, which unfortunately usually means narrowly 'analytical philosophy' for many scholars. The page should be retained but given a more global focus. There has been one book published recently that as produced an overview of world political thought: J. Babb, A World History of Political Thought (Edgar Elgar 2018) but the detail in that book would overwhelm the page. Still this book demonstrates that a balanced and truly world history of political thought is possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fubitobe (talkcontribs) 14:22, 28 July 2018 (UTC)Reply