Talk:History of Saint Petersburg

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Andries in topic Somewhat misleading sentence

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there could be a section of the previous settlements on the area, though they were not centered exactly where St. Petersburg is. 88.195.46.112 (talk) 14:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Post-war economy edit

The article is very heavy on countering the move of wealth from St. Petersburg to other parts of Russia. I don't think it is good to have such a one-sided view on this issue. A truth of communism is that egoism can destroy a society. Egoism in the world results to wars. Spreading of wealth can be beneficial in promoting peace. Furthermore taking wealth from the rich and giving it to others can reduce an element like the big theft that took place in Wall Street in the last decades. On the contrary, the Soviet elite, centered in Moscow were major thieves similar to the Wall street cronies. The collapse of the Soviet economy has a similar cause as the financial collapse of the present global economy, namely that the people in power didn't care for the common people and that they took as much as possible for themselves, thereby causing the collapse of the entire society. This theme is of major importance in the world religions and western political ideologies. Perhaps the best solution is Western European social-democracy with a transparent government, a critical press, promotion of peace and honesty, a bit dull but prosperous society. I request that the article in its present form should be changed.Daanschr (talk) 08:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Germans / Nazis edit

In three places in this article uses the word "nazi" instead of "german" without a clear reason. World War 2 events tend to have the word "nazi" opposed to the word "russian" or "soviet", when the more appropriate comparable term would in this case be "communist" - one describing the political system rather than the nationality. In my opinion "the germans shelled..." "the germans looted" etc. The word should mean the nationality of the active agent, not the political views of the german government at the time. The word "nazi" can be used when the political view is significant in some way, in these cases not so.

"The Nazis systematically shelled this route, called the Road of Life..." -the german army, the germans, shelled.

"Explosions of land-mines left by the Nazis cause numerous deaths among peaceful citizens..." -Mines were laid by the german army, why not use the word german then? (compared to "Explosions of land-mines left by the Nazis caused numerous deaths among peaceful communists") Also, "peaceful citizen" is hardly a neutral term, why not use the word "civilian" instead of "peaceful citizen". Past tense in the word "cause" wouldn´t hurt either. Opinions? Snackeboo (talk) 01:06, 17 April 2009 (UTC) I agree with you, and will take a look and see if this is still a problem. It is five years since you wrote the above comment!Simplysavvy (talk) 11:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)The problem seems to have been fixed. The word 'nazi' does not appear at all in this article.Simplysavvy (talk) 11:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Header Pic edit

needs one IceDragon64 (talk) 14:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Timeline of Saint Petersburg edit

What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 16:13, 19 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Huh? edit

"Sankt," like in Sankt Goar and some other European cities (is a common misconception about the "Dutch cultural origin"; for local versions, there are "Sant"[2] or Sint in modern Dutch.

– This sentence does not read and, to me at least, is incomprehensible. Sca (talk) 21:18, 25 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Somewhat misleading sentence edit

Orlando Figes wrote in a A People's Tragedy that Petrograd was devastated by the civil war. As as far as I know the book did not mention Lenin's red terror as a cause. Stalin's purges is outside the scope of the book. I think the most important reason for the devastation i.e. the civil war should be mentioned the most prominently which is not the case in the article now.

From the article 2018-03-11 "St. Petersburg was devastated by Lenin's Red Terror[18] then by Stalin's Great Purge[19] in addition to crime and vandalism in the series of revolutions and wars. "

Andries (talk) 06:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)Reply