Talk:Hey Jude/Archive 1
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Best Selling Single?
In short- it wasn't, that honour goes to "I wanna hold your hand", according to every source I have read. It's encouraging to see a song by my favourite band as a featured article, though disappointing to see one with such a glaring error.
I want to properly disambiguate Hey Jude, which is both a compilation album and song, the song being far more widely known than the compilation album, which was United States-only. What would be the "correct" way to fix this? I'm looking into rewriting the article to featured standard, so I'm curious. Thanks in advance for help rendered. Johnleemk | Talk 13:14, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I would say keep the song at Hey Jude, and the album goes to Hey Jude (album), with a note at the top of Hey Jude saying This article is about the song; for the album of the same name, see Hey Jude (album).. Just my $.02. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:17, 2004 Aug 12 (UTC)
- Seconded. Anárion 13:18, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Another possibility is to include both in the same article, especially if the album article isn't likely to be more than a paragraph or two. Each could have its own section. The article could start with a sentence that provides internal links to each section — something like "Hey Jude is a [[#The song|classic Beatles song]] and [[#The album|a Beatles compilation album]]". (I'm not suggesting this artlessly brief sentence, just its format.) Just a thought. — Jeff Q 15:21, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I had added a note about the album to the bottom a while ago, which was removed by a recent editor. I readded it, but if you wish to expand it to the point that it needs its own page, that would be excellent as well. —siroχo 15:41, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
- The album is nothing special - stick it all one article with the song taking precedence. Pcb21| Pete 16:52, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I agree. The sentence about the album is not worth of a separate article, at least not yet. anthony (see warning) 20:24, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
22 seconds into the song you hear a strange rustling sound in the background. Could that be Ringo heading back to the drums? Notice it's just a few seconds before the percussion comes in. 142.161.205.107 21:40, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hey Jude is a beautiful song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.190.191.12 (talk) 18:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
"The song, despite its unusual length (7 minutes, 12 seconds), became the Beatles' best-selling single" appears to be factually incorrect. A quick search of the internet gives sales figures on 10million for Hey Jude and 12 million for I Want to Hold Your Hand. LiamE
- Are you sure that those figures are worldwide? I can't find any more credible sources at the moment, but this fanpage (warning: MIDI background music) does believe that "Hey Jude" is their best-selling single. --LostLeviathan 13:12, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
- I don't like to put too much weight on fan sites to be honest. Even so [1] and [2] both seem to support "I want to hold your hand" as the bigger seller of the two. Of the sites I looked at [3] appears to be the most impartial and authoritative although as it doesn't give sources I can't be sure. As I understand it anyway worldwide sales figures are not a precise science. --LiamE 10:34, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Doesn't Julian now own the rights to the song? I seem to remember hearing that he went to court to get them. - Che Nuevara, the Democratic Revolutionary 02:36, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
- Absolutely not - Julian Lennon does not own the rights to any Beatles song - especially one that was written by Paul, not his father. The rights to only a few Beatles songs are owned by McCartney / Yoko - you can find these on Paul's MPL licensing site. All the rest are owned by Sony / Michael Jackson.
Is the comment, "In 2005, "Hey Jude" was performed by Paul McCartney as the finale of the main Live 8 event in London.", really relevant. Sure it's true... but he's being playing it at basically every concert he's ever done. --HybridFusion 06:13, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Also, all that was played was the outro? How is the fact that he played the outro to a song that he plays at almost every concert he performs, count as relevant? Not that I'm saying it wasn't an important concert but is every other track performed by everyone else listed under their own track entries? I doubt it. --Thetriangleguy 14:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Any objections to removal? HybridFusion 09:04, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
- Also, all that was played was the outro? How is the fact that he played the outro to a song that he plays at almost every concert he performs, count as relevant? Not that I'm saying it wasn't an important concert but is every other track performed by everyone else listed under their own track entries? I doubt it. --Thetriangleguy 14:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
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| Just checked out the notation on the page for Hey Jude - doesn't seem right. The notation doesn't match the piano part and the chords, with their suspensions and 11ths, are more complicated than the song really is. Should be just simple I IV V chords for the verse. |
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