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This page was nominated for deletion on December 21, 2005. The result of the discussion was Keep.

Rename

When the afd is over, I suggest renaming to "Captain Avery" (with suitable redirects for variants and aliases). This seems to be the most common version in historical accounts. Tearlach 23:36, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

If you actually intend to add the 'captain' part, then I wholeheartedly disagree. First of all, many pirates were "captains", including William Kidd, and Blackbeard, and hundreds others. If we change this article's name to Captain Avery, then we'd have to change William Kidd to Captain Kidd for consistency and so on. That's a big hassle and is not worth it.

But if you mean change the article's name to Henry Avery, then you might as well change it to John Avery, because that version is just as popular. And while you're at it, how about to Long Ben. Or you could just keep Henry Every the way it is, because that's also a popular version.

I really doubt there’s any official name for this pirate, per se, since he used so many aliases. I did a quick search through Yahoo! search engine for the words John Avery pirate, Henry Avery pirate, and Henry Every pirate. The results were 556,000 webpage matches, 496,000 and 933,000, respectively. Personally, I believe it'd be better to just stick with this name and redirect readers. For instance, the way I've added a disambiguation to the name John Avery. --Every1blowz 02:59, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

"Most common spellings" or "most popular versions" based on Google searches will perpetuate the misspelling of Avary's name. The correct spelling by Johnson or Pyle in original texts is Avary with an "A." This is consistent with the French spellings of d'Avary often used in the South of England. --User:FBFP August 21, 2006

misspelling of Avary's name

Not really. It's the general practice here to use the most canonical modern spelling according to reputable published sources (like there's an article about Shakespeare, even though he often wrote his name Shaksper). On that basis, Avary is in a minority. Pyle, anyway, wasn't an "original text" but 19th century, and the title page of Johnson [1] calls him Avery. The ODNB reference checks out, and is backed up by plenty of print sources on Google Books [2]. 82.25.224.73 20:24, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, so why is the article using Every if the oldest verifiable reference we have spells it Avery? I suspect that the 933,000 webpage matches to the Every spelling is largely due to the fact that Wikipedia has been spelling it that way. Every is even less canonical than Avary. Webpages aside, most books spell his name Avery.WikiTracker (talk) 00:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Right in the beggining of the text there is this reference to the year 2987, wich is clearly wrong, but i wouldn´t know the correct year. (187.77.182.131 (talk) 15:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC))

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"Largely unconfirmed?"

"While the stories of brutality by the pirates are largely unconfirmed, they are mostly corroborated by the depositions of several of Every's crewmen following their capture." If the actual pirates confirmed the stories of brutality, why are they called "unconfirmed?" Did the survivors of the Ganj-i-Sawai fail to confirm the story? Was there someone else who could have confirmed the stories and didn't? Pirate Dan (talk) 01:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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About the plaque

I've been in email correspondence with historian E. T. Fox, author of the book The King of the Pirates. He was kind enough to look at the article and offer some corrections/suggestions. I've tried to implement many of his suggestions with this edit. In regards to the plaque supposedly found in India in 1967, Fox writes: "I have been in contact with the Mumbai Museum regarding this plaque. They tell me that they do not possess any such plaque and that they have never heard of it being recovered locally. I have no idea where this rumour sprung from." I've removed mentions of this plaque accordingly. --Life is like a box of chocolates (talk) 07:22, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

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