Talk:HMS Safari/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 23:19, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Giving this one a look. —Ed!^(talk) 23:19, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria) (see here for this contributor's history of GA reviews)

1. It is reasonably well written:

   Pass External links and dab links look good. Copyvio detector returns green. Might want to check the dup links; I see a few here and there it's picking up.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable:

   Pass Ref 1 backs up what is cited in the text. Other offline references accepted in good faith.

   @Ed: are you OK with the assertion that after 4 July 1943, the submarine acted as a directional beacon for landings that happened in late 1942? MPS1992 (talk) 03:12, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

   Should be fine. Reliable source cites it here: [1] —Ed!^(talk) 03:48, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

   That was a typo. I switched Operation Torch (in North Africa) with Operation Husky (in Sicily). The typo was in the source. L293D (☎ • ✎) 04:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

3. It is broad in its coverage:

   Not Yet

   • Note the mine capacity in the infobox, unless by chance she never actually carried mines.

   • The boat never carried mines, and the S-class in general wasn't designed for minelaying. I still haven't found a single S-class sub that laid a mine in its career. Besides, the mines were optional equipment that could be taken on or off; the infobox mentions the torpedo tubes but not the number of torpedoes. The number of mines, just like the number of shells carried, was not a major aspect of the design. L293D (☎ • ✎) 04:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

   • Is it typical to refer to Italian subs as "U-Boats"? I don't see it mentioned in that article, though you have the source material.

   • No, changed to 'submarine'. L293D (☎ • ✎) 04:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

   • "On 16 August, Safari escorted the convoy in Operation Pedestal..." I assume she was doing this while surfaced to be visible?

   • Yes, clarified. L293D (☎ • ✎) 04:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

   • "she damaged the Italian vessel Gioavannina M with gunfire." -- The deck gun I assume? And could you describe what this ship was? Previous sentence indicates no "enemy" sighted so this implies it was firing on civilians.

   • No enemies were sighted during the convoy escort, but then Safari returned to normal patrolling. Clarified in article. L293D (☎ • ✎) 04:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

   • "Safari launched another torpedo, which hit amidships." -- What was the result?

   • Clarified. L293D (☎ • ✎) 04:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

   • "joining the 7th Submarine Flotilla, which conducted training." -- Might need to clarify that it conducted training full time if it's a training unit. As worded makes it seem like the ship went on one long training mission.

   • Clarified. L293D (☎ • ✎) 04:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy:

   Pass No problems there.

5. It is stable:

   Pass No problems there.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate:

   Pass Two images tagged PD and FU where appropriate.

7. Other:

   On Hold Nothing major, just holding for clarifications. —Ed!^(talk) 00:17, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

   • @Ed!: everything done. L293D (☎ • ✎) 04:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Much appreciated. I see that substantially the major concerns I had have been addressed. Based on this, going to Pass the GAN now. Well done! —Ed!^(talk) 14:55, 19 January 2019 (UTC)