Talk:HMS Aigle (1801)/GA1
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Reviewer: Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk · contribs) 14:54, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Will come back shortly. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 14:54, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
- Section 1; para 1;
- Mention the class which she belongs to.
- Done - the practice was to name the class after the first ship built so the "Aigle was the first of..." was meant to imply the class without the clumsiness of "Aigle was an Aigle-class". The class was also mentioned in the infobox. Other articles such as HMS Amazon (1799), have apparently done the same; presumably for the same reasons. No big deal either way though.--Ykraps (talk) 15:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Mention the position of Sir John Henslow, also a full stop after first sentence.
- Abbreviate the units from second mention using |abbr=on in the conversion template.
- I'm not sure what you're asking here. I have abbreviated the units converted using the sigfig=3 parameter which rounds to a single decimal place. Using the abbr=on parameter will increase the conversion to two decimal places. Is that what you're wanting?--Ykraps (talk) 18:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not exactly, this is different. In first instance you mention "metres" in full, from the second, if you use "abbr" it just says "m". Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 00:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Link beam, depth in the hold.
- The sentence "This made her 970 84⁄94 tons (bm)" is a bit awkward. Change it to She weighed XXXX or so.
- Tons burthen is a measure of volume, hence her dimensions made her that tonnage. I've written out in full and added a link.--Ykraps (talk) 13:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- Mention "bm" in full as it is the first mention.
- Mention the class which she belongs to.
- Section 1; para 2; Link gun deck, quarter deck, forecastle on first mention
- Section 2; para 1;
- Aigle was first commissioned for the English Channel, what do you mean by commissioned for the English Channel, was it used to patrol of the channel or what, mention that clearly and also remove "first", no need of that.
- Commissioned means, made ready for service. I've linked to an article on ship commissioning, although commissioning is commissioning irrespective of whether it's a ship or anything else. As to what she was doing in The Channel, the short answer is yes, she was patrolling it. Orders were generally unspecific and captains were given a lot of leeway, because they had to react quickly to changing events. Before the invention of radio, communication between fleets and the Admiralty, or even individual ships, was extremely difficult; it might be months before new orders were received and by then they might well be out of date. This was one of the things Napoleon failed to understand.--Ykraps (talk) 18:40, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Who is George Wolfe, mention his position.
- put ashore in Portland -> went ashore in Portland
- Is there something you don't like about "put ashore"? It's a fairly standard phrase in English [[1]] and while "went ashore" wouldn't be incorrect, "put ashore" is the more common term, particularly when the parties were rowed ashore in boats, as indeed they were in this case. --Ykraps (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- In what became known locally as the Easton Massacre, is a bit awkward and also confusion, reword.
- Aigle was first commissioned for the English Channel, what do you mean by commissioned for the English Channel, was it used to patrol of the channel or what, mention that clearly and also remove "first", no need of that.
- Section 2; para 2; re-floating the stranded ships so Wolfe ordered them destroyed -> re-floating the stranded ships, Wolfe ordered them to be destroyed\
- Would you mind looking at this again? Altering the sentence as you suggest will make it read, "The heavy swell prevented the British from re-floating the stranded ships, Wolfe ordered them to be destroyed". I don't think that makes sense. I could perhaps say something like, "Unable to re-float the stranded ships due to the heavy swell; Wolfe ordered them to be destroyed". --Ykraps (talk) 18:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- That looks good. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 00:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
- Section 2; para 4;
- Temporary command was given to Henry Sturt -> Henry Sturt was made the commander of the ship temporarily, can you explain why this was done? Why the happened to the previous commander Wolfe?
- was back in charge -> retook charge
- Vice-admiral, capitalize the first "a" in admiral and also remove "-"
- Hyphenating vice-admiral is an English variation. See here [[2]] for example.--Ykraps (talk) 20:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
- Mention the position of Admiral Cornwallis then and also mention his full name.
- Section 2; para 5;
- Two Chasse-marées, which country's and why?
- in a cutting-out expedition, expedition to where?
- I'm not sure if I understand the question. A cutting-out expedition (linked in the article) is a boat action, so the expedition is from Aigle to the enemy ship. If you're asking where the action took place, again, the sources don't say but it was probably in The Channel.--Ykraps (talk) 07:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Mention details about Pallas and Gibraltar, their nation and type.
- Link schooner
- Section 2.1;
- Mention details about Italienne and Sirene, their nation?
- re-supplied -> resupplied, south-east -> southeast
- A comma (,) after "sought the shelter of Groix' batteries"
- As it was now dark, remove "now"
- chasing merchantmen, which country's?
- Section 2.2;
- Section 2.3;
- it left The Downs on 28 July intent destroying the dock-yards, and arsenals at Antwerp -> it left The Downs on 28 July, intent destroying the dock-yards and arsenals at Antwerp
- Troops were landed -> The troops landed
- Link Island of Walcheren as a whole
- south-west -> southwest
- As above
- 5700 -> 5,700
- Link Lillo, Liefkenshoech
- Neither Lillo nor Liefkenshoech have articles to link to. The former town of Lillo is today part of Berendrecht-Zandvliet-Lillo, which is itself part of Antwerp.--Ykraps (talk) 16:52, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Which country does Phoenix belong to and the type?
- Link Genoa
- Vice-Admiral, no need to "-"
- As above
- Who is Robert Seppings?
- Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 06:13, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, Are you planning on coming back to this? Best regards--Ykraps (talk) 10:51, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 12:40, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail: