Talk:HMNZS Canterbury (L421)

Load capacity

I am assuming the data is taken from the same Herald article I have before me. The question is however, whether this represented she can load all, or showed several different load set (phrasings in the diagram such as "up to 33 containers" indicate to me that she cannot carry it all at the same time. MadMaxDog 09:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

It's also confusing whether the four NH-90 helicopters can only be carried as cargo or whether they can be operated - the wording in the NZ Navy releases is a bit confusing. --Nick Dowling 10:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The helicopter hanger can accommodate 5 aircraft, all on the same deck. However, only one aircraft has direct access to the hanger door at any given time. Therefore aircraft need to be moved about the hanger in order to access the flight deck. While this does not affect the capacity to embark aircraft, it does affect the speed aircraft can be launched.

Since her alterations of moving the RHIB alcoves, she can now only carry x3 NH-90 and one SeaSprite. Canterbury can operate x2 helo's at a time, But usually the NH-90s will be transported to location and operate from a FOB (Forward Operating Base) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.94.42.235 (talk) 00:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

A second Herald article notes 40 vehicles (i.e 14 Pinzgauer and the 16 others), but still does not note whether that includes the rest of the vehicles in the loadout, as well as the containers. I think not. Regarding the vehicles themselves, its not exactly unknown for newspaper writers to repeat their own mistakes by looking up an earlier article... MadMaxDog 11:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Just did a quick calculation based on the m² size of a 20ft container, and the given loading space of 1451 m². This would allow almost 100 containers (impressive!), so I assume the example (vehicles, containers, troops) is one full loadout. Very impressive indeed. MadMaxDog 11:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

She can carry this loadout because she does not have a well-dock taking up valuable space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:5A00:D8C4:6800:F12F:933A:55F3:A368 (talk) 09:18, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Home port?

There is a confusion. This navy reference has her - in the same piece - based BOTH at Lyttleton and Devonport. This NZ Herald article also has her based in Devonport. Then again, this NZ Herald article (just one day older) has her having Lyttleton as homeport (which would make sense, given her provincial affiliation. I am thoroughly confused. Anybody have an idea - otherwise we may have to mail the Navy to clarify. Ingolfson 11:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

All RNZN ships have a ceremonial homeport but are actually based at Devonport, which is the navy's only(?) operational base. --Nick Dowling 00:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Covered that now. Thanks Ingolfson 10:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

RNZN Shore Establishments:

HMNZS WAKEFIELD - Naval Headquarters, Wellington.

HMNZS PHILOMEL - the Administrative/Accommodation unit at Devonport Naval Base.

RNZ Naval College – a registered Government Training Establishment. This includes the New Entry, Command, Officer Training, Sea Survival and Damage Control Schools among many others.

No. 6 Squadron - based at RNZAF Base, Auckland, Whenuapai. (That's naval aviation)

So it seems that's all the bases there are (as per Navy homepage). Ingolfson 11:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Google maps photo

This is pretty neat - Google maps now has a shot of Canterbury fitting out at Williamtown in Australia at: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=-37.862,144.889&ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&ll=-37.861442,144.912313&spn=0.001961,0.003573&z=18&iwloc=addr The ship next to her is an Anzac class frigate. One of the Project Protector OPVs is also visible south of Canterbury. --Nick Dowling (talk) 01:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Lead photo

There is a new photo on Wikimedia Commons from a similar angle to the lead photo in this article, but without a helo and people in the way.[1] It's also an official NZ Defence Force photo released under Creative Commons. 203.7.140.3 (talk) 04:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I've added it to the article. Nick-D (talk) 07:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

RHIB?

Anyone care to clarify what an RHIB is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.118.200.217 (talk) 03:00, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.188.59.162 (talk) 11:32, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Number of machine guns

This discussion originated on my talk page after I reverted an IP claiming the ship had four .50 calibre machine guns --Epipelagic (talk) 11:04, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

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I don't know how to cite a video showing HMNZS Canterbury entering habour with her 4x .05 cal you can clearly see them all 4 atop the bridge when she is entering the harbour ... I have also toured the ship and seen them... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=090NZ-ZcXrE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.188.59.162 (talk) 10:39, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

I agree it does look like four guns on the YouTube video. Still, that's not what the Navy says on their official web page for the ship (see bottom left), and you cannot cite the video as a reliable source. Can you find a report somewhere which says the ship upgunned? --Epipelagic (talk) 10:56, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Here they are firing two 50 cals, at once showing that there are two 50 cal mounts on one side and there are two mounts on the opposite side... and if they have the mounts they carry the guns on board. It is such a small upgrade that the RNZN wouldn't even mention it and there will be no official notice of upgrade.

https://www.facebook.com/NZNavy/videos/726615541143585/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:5A00:34DC:6F00:C87:8C4F:DBEC:FC47 (talk) 05:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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NH90 cleared to operate at sea

Under Aircraft carried it mentions "4 × NH90 helicopters can also be hangared for transport, however cannot yet be operated off of the ship at sea." This is so out of date, the NH90 were cleared to operate off Canterbury at sea in 2017. Whilst it is very rear they do. They are cleared to do this operation and have even been used in training the next batch of FDO's. Pretty sure they are cleared to sea state 2 or 3.

• https://twitter.com/i/status/996263925967503360 or https://www.facebook.com/NZAirForce/videos/1276432582491058/
• http://www.airforce.mil.nz/about-us/news/media-releases/media-release.htm@guid=%7Bd7c9dd91-4eee-420c-93f0-53dd8639de19%7D.htm
• https://www.facebook.com/NZAirForce/posts/cleared-to-land-last-week-one-of-our-nh90-helicopters-helped-royal-new-zealand-n/1580296042104709/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/7a6ra0/a_rnzaf_nh90_helicopter_touching_down_on_hmnzs/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.94.38.207 (talk) 06:06, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Crew size

The crew size seems to be incorrectly listed. I'm not exactly sure how wikipedia editing works though so I would prefer a more qualified person did it for me. The actual crew size is 78 core crew members, with the 10 air force and 7 army ship staff personell being correct. Source: https://www.nzdf.mil.nz/navy/our-equipment/ships-and-watercraft/hmnzs-canterbury/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by KiwiSpike1 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 24 January 2022 (UTC)