Talk:Godfrey Bloom

Dreadfully badly written

Reads like a D- school essay. Lots of conflicting statements in different paragraphs, e.g. did he threaten someone or allegedly threaten him? Did he resign the whip or was it withdrawn? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.18.195 (talk) 18:20, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Attack page?

Bloom's page is being attacked for political gain. There is more substance to 'women's rights', 'climate change' 'drunk' 'Shultz' but it is edited by political trolls. talk —Preceding undated comment added 09:17, 30 July 2013 (UTC) Reads like one. Just talks about his views on woman and prozzies! Seems a lot of undue weight.--Vintagekits (talk) 22:59, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Just what the bloke said. Feel free to add stuff about what he has done. Setwisohi (talk) 23:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Not interested in adding to this particular party tbh, feel free to continue! ;) --Vintagekits (talk) 23:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

The all too politically engaged leftists barrators that want to make Wikipedia into yet another arena of their endless political bickering and petty quarreling, is intellectually corrupting, and that problem should be taken seriously.--83.108.21.61 (talk) 12:04, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Not an attack page. I looked at this from an neutral point of view and all the sources -except Political scrapbook -are wp:Suggested sources. There is no wp:editorialising as far as I can see. If someone of his background is ejected from the mansion house, or is drunk in the European parliament, then he will be in the news. If you can find something positive to contribute feel free to add it. JRPG (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Someone doesn't like Godfrey Bloom!

This page just shows what a joke wikipedia has become. I suggest moving it to "criticism of Godfrey Bloom" 202.89.188.44 (talk) 05:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

This is just an attack page, no neutral point of view to be found here. --203.26.122.12 (talk) 01:31, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

While I agree with you, (1) feel free to be WP:BOLD and do it yourself and (2) it's not really a dispute if nobody else is around to actually argue about it. I'm just removing the random various quotes myself. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:52, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Removed the "Career" section

I don't think various quotes and controversies qualify as his career and it seems like undue weight to a politician in power for five years. Plus this looks an awful lot like primary sources of "here is what he said", as opposed to more independent secondary sources. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:55, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Mrs Bloom's activities

Certain material about Godfrey Bloom's wife should not be posted in the article as WP:BLPPRIMARY clearly applies here:

Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses.

The article is about Godfrey Bloom, not his wife. Only the barest mention of her life and career is really needed. As it stands, even the [Daily Mail Online] source,about Mrs Bloom being am equine physiotherapist, is far from ideal, because non-RS tabloid sources are not supposed to used unless a more credible reliable source exists. Unless the Bloom's private life has been covered in, for example,The Times (a possible RS, the newspaper's content is difficult to confirm without a subscription), and her already stated career mentioned, strictly speaking, this too should probably be cut too. Philip Cross (talk) 08:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Seconded, although we can perhaps make an exception to the listed occupations on the copy of their registered marriage certificate, unless challenged. The Guidelines were after all drawn up originally with living American personalities in mind, and American birth, adoption, marriage and death certificates, unlike their British counterparts, although remaining public documents, are often sealed, and not open to public inspections or public orders of copies. Mrs. Bloom's private shareholdings (in a non-listed private family company) should be out regardless of the primary sources rule, any more than we should record the addresses of her private property empire. -- 212.50.182.151 (talk) 11:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Father a Spitfire pilot

In his self-written "military CV" Bloom claims his father to have been a "spitfire pilot" (sic). Elsewhere he says "My father, as a Spitfire pilot, fought for freedom against Nazi domination of Europe...". He is also said to be a "Squadron Leader".

Such claims are easily verifiable in military records, in the National Archives and elsewhere. Yet a detailed search shows up no evidence of an Alan Bloom ever having been an RAF officer, nor even having been a member of the RAF in any capacity. Nor can one find any evidence in any online archive of an Alan Bloom ever having piloted a Spitfire, or ever having been a pilot.

92.12.51.89 (talk) 17:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Greetings. Wish you'd said that earlier as it does cast doubts on his claim. Unfortunately we aren't allowed to show original research but I certainly won't be reverting further edits. Regards JRPG (talk) 18:17, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I'd always understood that assertions on Wiki needed a citation for the purposes of validation, and something more than newspaper reference which is evidently based on self-published assertions. I would have thought, therefore, that ascertaining that an assertion is without valid foundation is not "original research". Surely, it is up the person making claims to back them up ... if they are not able to do so, then should not their claim fall?

My understanding is that Mr Bloom has been asked to substantiate his claim and has not taken up the opportunity - it would be simple for him to provide some details of Alan Bloom's war record. He has not done so. 92.12.51.89 (talk) 19:34, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Having worked with both Telegraph & Observer reporters on a financial story, I can only say how impressed I was at efforts made to ensure accuracy. Normally a factual statement from a reliable source should suffice & I was completely unaware until today of doubts over Bloom's claim. If you can get any wp:Suggested sources to refer to this problem than it should be included. In my own case, a local MP named someone in Parliament after libel action had been threatened ..and this gave the papers the opportunity to write up the story using qualified privilege. To fake family war records would be political suicide. Feel free to email if you wish. JRPG (talk) 22:54, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

- both of you, please bear in mind WP:BLPPRIMARY. GiantSnowman 13:24, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Which does not apply to the departed. -- Urquhartnite (talk) 18:31, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Removal of content

User:94.46.3.195, please do not remove sourced content from the introduction. Thank you. Tiller54 (talk) 01:00, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

BLP noticeboard

Section = 109 BLP articles labelled "Climate Change Deniers" all at once. This article was placed in a "climate change deniers" category. After discussion on WP:BLPN and WP:CFD the category was deleted. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 16:05, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

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. Requires addition of inline references using one of the {{Cite}} templates Requires infobox Requires addition of a succession box Keith D 12:27, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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Professorship

On Bloom's Twitter account - https://twitter.com/goddersbloom - he refers to himself as "Prof. Godfrey Bloom". Does anyone have a citation for this prestigious title, and where and when it was awarded? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:40, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Claims on twitter accounts are inherently spurious. In early December 2019 he claims to be 'General Godfrey Bloom QC'Nickpheas (talk) 13:30, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

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Undone edits by Godfreybloom49

Looking at the article's history an edit and then string of edits have been made by Godfreybloom49

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Godfrey_Bloom&type=revision&diff=845559556&oldid=843184242
  
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Godfrey_Bloom&type=revision&diff=845562014&oldid=845559909

With clear similarity between the names of the article subject and of the user, Nomoskedasticity has fairly undone these edits and added a related post on the users talk page.

There were a lot of changes attempted here and, before beginning to wade through them, I thought to open things up for other editors thoughts.

GregKaye 10:37, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Election

"Bloom contested the Conservative-held seat of Haltemprice and Howden at the 1997 general election, coming fifth." Contested for which party? (The infobox says he joined Ukip in 1998, the following year.) 86.179.78.64 (talk) 11:55, 6 May 2019 (UTC)