Talk:Girl Scouts of Taiwan

Editwarring by BrendonTheWizard

I can't tell if your "You've responded with no rationale" makes you a liar or just stupid, but as I said, it's overtag on a non-political article. Are you tagbombing every single Taiwan article? You shouldn't-it has its own project, which _does_ belong here. Your limited recognition should go on political articles, articles about inter-state relations and wars and conflicts, not on NGOs which do have international recognition and have nothing to do with any of those. Top of that you're not tagging articles with any logic or thoroughness, there are articles on which the tag would be appropriate but for your own unfathomable reason you've decided to make this article an issue. Clearly you see fit to edit-war about it, I won't take the bait but I am quite happy to call out pinheads where you appear.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 02:52, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

First I will respectfully ask that you direct your responses at the arguments, not the editors. It appears you're currently unfamiliar with how articles are assessed in the WPLR WikiProject.

There are two primary defining ways that a nation is identified as being in our scope

1. Being listed on Limited recognition (which Taiwan is)
2. Being a member of the UNPO (here is their members page) (which Taiwan is)

In addition, proto-states and independence movements are on the fringes of the scope, but that's not relevant here.

The core of the misunderstanding seems to be what types of articles you seem to believe are included. Of course political articles are part of it, but we aim to improve articles about the countries as a whole which are in most cases severely neglected. This article was identified due to its status as a start class article, meaning it needs to be improved. This article was identified during one of our current projects: identifying articles needing immediate attention (stub/start class articles) throughout the scope.

The assessment scale is as follows -

Top: the subject itself

High: country articles (taiwan included)

Mid: articles summarizing key parts of these countries (Culture, war, history, geography or environment) (Note that politics aren't the one and only thing covered)

Low: more specific topics relating to the countries (Specific or individual aspects of culture) - The Girls Scouts of Taiwan is a very specific article relating to Taiwan's society and culture.

If the rationale of "it already has its own project" made any sense, there'd be no reason for the Bannershell templates with many WikiProjects, and there'd be no reason for the "Project" assessment scale for WikiProjects in the scope of other WikiProjects.

As a last point, I can't help but notice you mentioned that Taiwan does have international recognition. That's great, so does Palestine, so does Kosovo, so does Abkhazia, so does South Ossetia, so does Western Sahara, but they don't have UN membership and they've been included in the WP:URC (now WP:WPLR) list of countries in our scope since 2004. (And as a notable side-point, this makes our project two years older than Wikipedia:WikiProject Taiwan, meaning it is the first project to identify Taiwan as a part of its scope.)

As a follow-up comment, WP:SANCTIONGAMING is not acceptable. Thanks. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 03:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

No idea what "sanction gaming" is or why you think it relevant, so you can get bent.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:09, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

You know. Brendon the Wizard ✉️ ✨ 18:52, 2 August 2018 (UTC)