Talk:Geum triflorum

Uses

I found a potential source of information about the uses of plants like Geum triflorum. http://naeb.brit.org/uses/search/?string=Geum+triflorum However, I am not sure if the information is reliable enough to be used in Wikipeda. Opinions? MtBotany (talk) 23:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Species Box Photo

In my recent revision I did not change out the photo in the species box. I strongly considered using the photograph currently in the gallery with the caption "Prairie smoke (Geum triflorum) on Olympic National Forest Mount Townsend Trail". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geum_triflorum#/media/File:Geum_triflorum_var._campanulatum_on_Olympic_National_Forest_Mount_Townsend_Trail_(4837197389).jpg

My worry is that the leaves of another plant in the background may make it a less than perfect illustration, even though it is otherwise a great photograph. I would appreciate opinions on this. MtBotany (talk) 23:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

You could add it as a second photo in the speciesbox (using |image2= and |image2_caption=), and caption it as a photo of the inflorescence (or you could add it somewhere else in the article). I don't think it should replace the current photo. Presence of another plant in a photo isn't necessarily a problem, but in this case it's not clear that the leaves are not part of the Geum triflorum, which has some potential to mislead; if the photographer had zoomed out more and it was obvious that the leaves were connected to a different plant it wouldn't be misleading. Plantdrew (talk) 16:51, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice, @Plantdrew. I was leaning toward your position and I'm convinced. I'm leaving the picture in the gallery. MtBotany (talk) 00:29, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

General Issues

Hello @Eewilson (any anyone else who happens to come in). Per your comment at WikiProject Plants I'm not moving on from G. triflorum yet. I don't know that I will every totally move on, I'm still poking at the internet and searching my local library for more/better sources. Plus editing out mistakes that I inevitably only see a few days after hitting "publish". Anything in particular you were thinking of? I did happen to find a book of ethnobotany at the Botanical Garden library which has some Blackfeet uses of G. triflorum as well as their name for the plant. Excited to get that information into the article as soon as I can. MtBotany (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, MtBotany! Sorry for my delay in response. It's been a bit of a [much of a] crazy week. So, I made a few changes, just minor ones, but can take a look again at some point whenever you are ready, assuming I'm available. I'm kind of in a Wikibreak.

I've used the NAEB database to help find ethnobotanical information. I did a peek, and it has 35 uses listed for Geum triflorum, including by the Blackfoot people, as well as the Chippewa (now the Ojibwe), the Thompson (now the Nlakaʼpamux), the Paiute (although it is not clear which group), and the Okanagan-Colville (likely a group of Okanagan-Colville language-speaking people of the Salish). To see how I cited this, look at the Uses section of Symphyotrichum novae-angliae. You can dig up some of the original sources from that database or just cite the database as an abstract. It is preferred not to use past tense when speaking of Indigenous uses of plants to avoid the bias often shown that Indigenous peoples are all extinct. For example, in that article, I wrote "The Iroquois have made a decoction of the plant for weak skin..." and "Among Indigenous peoples of North America, it has been documented that the Cherokee have made a poultice of the roots for pain...", etc. See these talk page discussions at the Wikiprojects for Indigenous peoples of North America here and Plants here. – Elizabeth (Eewilson) (tag or ping me) (talk) 13:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)