Talk:Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Gerda Arendt in topic Music

Popularity and hymn attribution edit

Not to detract from Gerhardt's contribution, but I remember often questioning the imho undeserved association with him because it is Harder's melody that makes the hymn popular. I would bet that most German churchgoers think Gerhardt was the composer. Jmar67 (talk) 09:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Feel free to expand, but I knew that Gerhardt wrote it, from childhood days, - not thinking he also was the composer. I learned early that melody writers for hymns are in most cases not the authors of the text. We just chatted over a translation of the 14th stanza in family. My birthday party included singing six stanzas together (1-4, 8, 14) - always a good idea to seek delight when it's not obvious. I plan to take it to GA some day, feel free to add, anybody ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 16 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Gerhardt was not the music composer in any case. I commented him out in the IB field, which makes the IB title less confusing. Are there other hymns that are attributed more to their lyricists (or translators) than their composers? Jmar67 (talk) 11:33, 17 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
Yes, all by Luther, for example. Actually, I guess most at all, - ask people who composed melodies of hymns ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:36, 17 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Winkworth edit

Sentence case for the English? How can we distinguish the average German hymn which I have to translate from this one which Catherine Winkworth translated [1], - not getting the "out" aspect, which literally means "outside", but might also include "out of you limited way of thinking". Also not sure about "delight" as a translation of Freude, which (Freude) seems an attitude here rather something nice coming from outside (delight). I met two family members yesterday who lost their spouses, miss friends: much in need of that change in attitude which Gerhardt recommended to his wife after the war during which they lost children. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 17 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Music edit

Having the music visible is a great improvement! Do we know who wrote the harmonization? The "same stems" for soprano and alto are good for parallel lines but look a bit strange where they have different rhythm. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

The LilyPond score is a transcription from the image in the infobox, File:Geh aus, mein Herz (1876) 1.jpg (except for some miniscule simplifications) which uses the same stem orientation. Apart from 5 instances, the two voices in the top staff use the same syllabification, but writing them as separate voices requires a more complicated LilyPond structure; and I was too lazy for that. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:15, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, - I'm a beginner in the system, thanks for explaining! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply