Talk:Gargamel

Latest comment: 5 months ago by נוף כרמל in topic Jewish streotypes

Sassette edit

In the 6th paragraph it's said that Sassette is Gargamel's daughter/creation. Didn't the smurfs themselves create Sassette? "(It is worth noting that he does love at least one Smurf, his daughter/creation Sassette who refers to him as "pappy Gargamel.")" Think it was Nat, Snappy, and Slouchy that created her.


Reply  : Im not sure about the cartoon, but they did so in the Peyo's comic book. How ever Sassette still did reffer Gargamel as "pappy". I think she seas him as here Godfather or somthing... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.27.95.34 (talk) 07:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)Reply


I thought it was Smurfette that Gargamel created. The other Smurfs turned her into one of their own by the overwhelming Smurfiness of the Smurf way of life.

Do we really need to mention that Seth Green voiced Gargamel on a parody show? If so, does it have to be in the same sentence as the original voice actor (with no mention of Robot Chicken's satirical nature)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.1.4.143 (talk) 07:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

The events of the episode were put into the article as if from the original canon. I edited that and put it into a "Presentation in Other Media" section. ArekExcelsior (talk) 21:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

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TV show vs. Comic edit

There really needs to be clarification about what medium Gargamel appears in. Is he solely a character in the TV series, or did he appear in the comics as well? More broadly, this is all written from a within-universe perspective - there should be more context about the creation, etc., of the character. john k (talk) 15:40, 9 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

enmity edit

the cartoon had a different reason for gargamels's hatred towards the smurfs. when he was young he saw one and nobody believed him. as a result he became a laughingstock and was thrown out of his magic acadamy. he then attemptrd to capture one to prove he was not nuts. but each attempt was thwarted and led to him blaming the smurfs for all of his woes.

"misanthrope"? edit

The linked article defines misanthropy as "the general hatred, mistrust or dislike of the human species or human nature". How is that relevant to Smurfs and Smurfworld? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 15:40, 11 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Gargamel and Azrael edit

An editor has removed part of an edit I made, claiming "antisemitism" and claiming that what I added was not public information, despite being clearly expressed in the source immediately following it:

"Quant à donner au chat de Gargamel le nom d’Azraël (ange de la mort dans la tradition hébraïque), la connaissance de la culture juive, qu’il implique, incite plutôt à penser que ce choix vient plus d’un philosémitisme que d’un antisémitisme, ce que confirme Ivan Delporte (rédacteur en chef de Spirou et collaborateur de Peyo) ; à l’origine de l’idée, il affirme qu’il s’agit d’un clin d’œil à la judéité de son épouse."[1] (emphasis mine) (reprinted in [2] as well) Other sources that report the same include this one,this one and this one, where this "not a public information" is stated by Thoerry Culliford, the son of Peyo.

Can we please leave the baseless accusations for other sites and base the article on the available sources here? Fram (talk) 09:23, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Question edit

What reception and reviews does Gargamel have? I mean, I have read about what Hank Azaria thinks of him, but, what do others think? Austin012599 (talk) 12:05, 10 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Azrael in Hebrew edit

Hat is an archaic biblical word for fear no one uses. it might have been the translator's intention, but most Israelis consider Hat-hatul to be a loose version of kitty-cat 187.189.130.163 (talk) 19:19, 21 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Jewish streotypes edit

I deleted the chapter because it is based on a booklet from 2011 that claims that the smurf village is a communist colony, Papa resembles Stalin and Brainy is Trozky - Article in The Guardian. Also, Azrael is not an angel of death in Jewish tradition, and Hat-hattul is the invention of the modern Hebrew translator (nice invention). Since the smurf writer was Bellgium, the name is more probably derived from Gargamelle, the giantess mother of Gargantua. La Nave Partirà (talk) 06:37, 13 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Not a "booklet", a book, which received extensive media attention at the time, including, for example, in top publications such as the WSJ and the Telegraph, and continues to generate media attention even today. And while the book discussed those ideas, it was be no means their originator - this discussion is decades old (see for example here and here). You may refute the claims off-hand, but you can't deny that there is some strong controversy surrounding the character of Gargamel. The article is lacking as it doesn't mention the controversy. נוף כרמל (talk) 08:46, 1 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Gargamel is a warlock not a wizard edit

Gargamel is a warlock not a wizard, it says he is a wizard. Pls fix. 143.105.208.101 (talk) 04:20, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply