Talk:Fresca

Flavors

Anyone have information on the flavors listed other than the 3 currently produced? Could someone have edited them in, using flavors for agua fresca? Or perhaps someone put FANTA flavors in the list.

♦ Indeed. I propose we get rid of them until info appears. --R27182818 (talk) 23:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Caffeine?

Does Fresca have caffeine?

-- No, it does not.

Before saccharin?

As I recall, Fresca's original sweetener was not saccharin, but something better that ended with "...ates". I started this page in order to get help remembering what the sweetener was.

New name for original

Here I sit drinking a can of Fresca, and it says "Original Citrus" on the can, not "Sparkling Citrus." So... which is it (dare I ask)? Search4Lancer 05:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

It says "original citrus sparkling flavored soda" 68.36.197.244 03:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The Original Sweetener

I'm not sure if the original poster is correct about Fresca's original sweetener, but it sounds like he or she is thinking of cyclamate, which was banned in the United States in 1969. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BuzzDog (talk • contribs) 01:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

I want Fresca with real sugar! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jigen III (talk • contribs) 09:28, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Refreshing

I am enjoying some Fresca right now and let me just say it is goddamn refreshing. 68.36.197.244 03:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I had always thought the product was pronounced, "Freska." Then there was a recent homestarrunner.com cartoon in which the main character Homestar refers to it as "Fresha." I came to this page to find the correct pronunciation, and none was given!! Could someone edit the page to add it? 69.218.235.103 00:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)kielejocain

In the US, I have seen advertisements for the flavored varieties that pronounce it as "Fres-ka." But that doesn't mean that it is pronounced the same in other countries.

Cheers! RobHoitt- 00:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC) - comhrá/talk

A running gag on Homestar is his mispronunciation of certain words. I'm pretty sure that was a satirical employment of the drink.-Desmonthes0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.230.189 (talk) 07:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

In New England?

When I was little back in the late 1970's, I remember that my brother and I weren't allowed to drink diet sodas like Tab or Pepsi Light as my mother was afraid of the artificial sweetners causing cancer. We were allowed to drink Fresca however the packaging was different than those shown on the Coca-Cola website. These Fresca bottles were clear with raised white snowflakes, it dissappeared for a while and was replaced with the "Sugar-Free Fresca" white cans that Coca-Cola displays as cans from the early 1980s. Could we have been a test market for something simmilar to the "Mexican Fresca" that you can find in neighborhood bodegas in the US today. (Mexican Fresca is very simmilar to the Citra that was offered for a short time in the late 1990's, although it seems to be a slight bit less carbonated.) I know New Hampshire where I was from was a test bed for OK Soda and home to a large Coca-Cola bottler. Any thoughts?

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"Sparkling" removed?

As I am currently drinking a Peach Citrus Fresca I see on the can "Peach Citrus" and on the next line "Sparkling Flavored Soda" (quotes are my addition). Would it actually be considered correct to say that "sparkling" was removed? Valley2city 05:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Trivia / Pop Culture section - should it stay or go?

Folks, a few months ago the trivia section was deleted, and now it seems to be reappearing as "Popular Culture References", both times without discussion. I'd like to open such a discussion: should the section stay or go? --R27182818 (talk) 23:05, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

It should go. The article is about a commercially-produced beverage. The pop culture references/trivia is irrelevant except as a feeble attempt to "prove" notability. A better and more relevant way to achieve this would be to add verifiable references. The "PCR" section should be deleted, and an effort made to add citations. 12.233.146.130 (talk) 22:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah, so you agree that the Dolores Kearns Goodwin anecdote ahout LBJ should be pulled, because it's irrelevant, uncited, and she's a known plagiarist. Quote from her and you run the risk of quoting twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.207 (talk) 07:24, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

No Pepsi equivalent?

I'm thinking of deleting that reference and saying something to the effect of "Its closest Pepsi analogue is Sierra Mist Ruby Splash". My girlfriend (a fan of "fres-ka") pointed out and I agree that the lemon lime plus grapefruit is pretty flimsy and that the latter overwhelms the others. Thoughts?Levelistchampion (talk) 22:30, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

The new Mountain Dew "whiteout" is the same thing as fresca or squirt 97.91.172.232 (talk) 06:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Ingredients--subcategories

breaks down to North America and Mexico. Umm, Mexico is part of North America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve-seattle (talk • contribs) 22:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

NHL Reference

Although I can't back it up, I have doubts about any corporate sponsorship of the NHL in the '60s (and of course, I admit that I could very well be wrong since I wasn't alive in the '60s, let alone old enough to comprehend corporate sponsors in the '70s when I did see my first NHL game). However, it seems that this line about Fresca almost being an NHL sponsor should be removed because it's been in this article for at least 6 years without any citation to back it up, and made worse by the fact that any search elsewhere on the Internet just comes back to this article, or the text directly lifted from it. Crimson667 (talk) 16:28, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

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reference to The Boys (2019 TV series)

I added a neutral line mentioning that this drink is widely referenced in the second series of the TV superhero series The Boys. This was certainly not intended trivially, and I disagree with its removal a few hours later. I live in Europe, am 65 years old and widely travelled including in North America. Unlike e.g. Coke or Pepsi, I have never heard of Fresca. It came up so often in the TV series -- shots of the can, mentions by name -- that my interest was piqued and I looked it up on Wikipedia. I was interested to find it was a real-world product, but surprised there was no reference to its appearance in the TV show. Many many Wikipedia article on a whole range of subjects include cultural references, some of which I find uninteresting but I can understand may be of interest to others. I worded my short sentence carefully and neutrally for instance not mentioning the clear implication in the TV show that the drink had some kind of mind-control purpose. I hope others will agree that my short edit should be reinstated.Jonathanlynn (talk) 08:38, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Fresca appears in a few episodes of a TV show. The question is this: Are those appearances a significant aspect of the 50+ year history of this soda -- the subject of this article? In ten years, will an article on the latest twists and turns in its marketing discuss that it was briefly seen in a TV show a decade ago? Not likely.

The test for this type of thing is finding a source about Fresca that discusses the use. Sources about the show will certainly mention lots of trivial details: a faraday cage here, escaped Nazis there, sneaker sponsorships somewhere else, but none of these are significant aspects the the history of faraday cages, escaped Nazis, sneakers or Fresca.

It was used on the show. But that tells us nothing meaningful about the soda. - SummerPhD^v2.0 19:43, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

There's some logic in your argument and it could be justified as an approach to developing articles, even though it means that people like me will not find the information I want when I look something up. However the approach you describe is not common practice on Wikipedia as far as I can see. Just two examples of many that occur to me: Thus Spoke Zarathustra where the discussion of Nietzsche's philosophical novel ends (in the section on musical and literary adaptations) with a reference to a metal album whose only link to Nietzche's work is presumably in the minds of the band's members, and Jaguar E-type where the discussion of the British sports car ends (in the section on In popular culture) with a list of films, songs and video games of the last 50 years featuring the car, many of which I assume many readers have not heard of.

So I'm confused as to when it's OK to take that approach and when it's essential to stick only to the subject itself and not mention any broader cultural references!Jonathanlynn (talk) 23:42, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Other articles exist. Some of them are nearly perfect and -- in cases where a soda, German philosophy and a car are similarly covered, copying those rare, nearly perfect articles might make some sense.

Other articles are horrible and should probably be rewritten from scratch. Copying what one of them does is probably a mistake.

Most articles are somewhere in between, doing some things right and other things wrong. Copying their handling merely picks what someone else did in another article -- a different context -- and applies it here because you say it there.

The way out of all of that is a general consensus, reflected in Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. In articles where someone has taken it up to create an indiscriminate list of a subject appearing in popular culture, the template {{inpopularculture}} alerts editors that "This article appears to contain trivial, minor, or unrelated references to popular culture. Please reorganize this content to explain the subject's impact on popular culture, providing citations to reliable, secondary sources, rather than simply listing appearances."

This example is a trivial, minor reference in popular culture. It's in the show, but so what? LOTS of things are in lots of shows and most of those occurrences are of, at best, passing interest.

Take, for instance, Richard Nixon. He appears in countless Grammy Award winning songs and albums, Oscar winning films, Pulitzer winning books, plays, operas, protest march chants, knock knock jokes and in a recurring role as a major character (as a disembodied head) in several epidodes in an Emmy winning TV show.

None of them are in Richard Nixon because none of the references had a verifiable impact on the subject of Richard Nixon. Ask 100 people about Richard Nixon and no one who thinks they know anything about him will cite Dick, Forest Gump, Nixon in China, Madman Across the Water, "Ohio", Futurama or thousands of other pop culture references to him. (Maybe someone has to read All the President's Men for a 300 level 20th century civics class or saw the film in a 200 level dramatic cinema class, but certainly not many.)

To compare when a reference to a subject in popular culture was significant, consider Chevy Chase's send up of Gerald Ford as a bumbling buffoon in multiple Saturday Night Live skits. That is discussed in Gerald Ford. Why the difference? The skits demonstrably had an impact on what people though of Ford. A New York Times article cited in the article has Ford partially blaming those skits on his bad image and losing his re-election campaign.

Do independent reliable sources discuss the impact on Fresca from appearing in the show? Did sales spike or tank because of it? Are hipsters adopting it as their new "hot" element from 40 years ago? Do we have any sources about Fresca that discuss its blink-and-you'll-miss it use by a short-run minor character on the show?

It is possible, though unlikely, that something that hasn't happened yet will make this background prop use significant. Season four reveals that Compound V is Fresca or fans of the show begin buying Fresca in quantities the brand has never seen before. Suddenly, Fresca is available at McDonald's nationwide, pop songs are written about it or something else. If something significant does occur, you can bet it will be discussed in independent reliable sources about Fresca. - SummerPhD^v2.0 02:04, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

You just need to wait that some article pops, mentioning Fresca as an unknown beverage appearing in The Boys, and that's it. You will be able to add this reference on Wikipedia.

Sadly, Wikipedia works on good references, not on thoughts or point of views, especially when it's about brands.

85.168.113.56 (talk) 13:43, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Essence stated on search of sparkling water thats alot put in cans is very interesting also.

Per my readings essence of these drinks aren't much of anything. 2601:587:3:F6A0:2CB6:82BC:3CEB:5042 (talk) 08:50, 21 December 2021 (UTC)