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I think this has already been mentioned, but Francisco was black, or African, or African-American if you will, but he was not a creole, that is a big mistake. Creole was the name given to children of two white Europeans that were born in America, or that was the case in Spanish areas at least. I almost tried to start an article about him because I couldn't find him anywhere. Francisco Menéndez (captain) would be more fitting for his article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonionguerra (talk • contribs) 11:17, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
According to the Spanish Academy dictionary (http://www.rae.es) criollo does apply to blacks born in America, not just whites.deisenbe (talk) 12:38, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
In contemporary American English usage, creole may imply some black ancestry, but I've never heard or seen it applied to someone of primarily African ancestry. In Spanish colonial usage, criollo meant someone of European ancestry born in the Americas. See Casta. Nobody in Spanish Florida would have called this man a criollo. I'm not sure what the disambiguation for this article should be, but I don't think it should be "creole". - Donald Albury 13:56, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thinking about this some more, if "creole" is being used here with the meaning of having African ancestry, then we are disambiguating this article on the basis of his race, which I find highly inappropriate. We definitely need to find another term to use. - Donald Albury 14:06, 7 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
