Talk:Flywheel, Shyster, and Flywheel/Archive 1

Episode list origin

The Episode list for the BBC series appears to be based on the info on page www.britishcomedy.org.uk/comedy/flywheel.htm, with additions from www.dirkmaggs.dswilliams.co.uk/Flywheel series 2 dirk maggs.htm to fill in gaps. I suggest we should just use the info from www.dirkmaggs.dswilliams.co.uk (from pages Flywheel series 1 dirk maggs.htm,Flywheel series 2 dirk maggs.htm,Flywheel series 3 dirk maggs.htm) as presumably the producer and director of the show actually knows what the shows are based on. --AGoon (talk) 00:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Sampling

A footnote explains:

The CAB rating is the percentage of radio-set owners polled in a given area who are listening to a given show. Thus, if out of 100 radio-set owners polled in the area covered by the broadcast, 20 report that they listened, then the rating which appears in the report is 20. The percentage is not a percentage of the listening audience, but of the radio-set owners interviewed.

Well of course. This is elementary knowledge in marketing research. Or indeed in psychology. For example:

Although research questions concern an entire population, it usually is impossible for a researcher to examine every individual in the population of interest. Therefore, researchers typically select a smaller, more manageable group from the population and limit their studies to the individuals in the selected group. In statistical terms, a set of individuals selected from a population is called a sample.

That's from Gravetter and Wallnau, Essentials of Statistics for the Behavioral Sciences 6th ed ISBN 978-0-495-38394-9, page 4. But feel free to look up the matter in any book related to opinion polling. Morenoodles (talk) 07:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Issues

These issues were brought up by Ottava Rima (talk · contribs) on his talk page, in this comment:

• "In the second to last paragraph of "Reception", we have two quotes from Groucho with one ambiguous, and they both seem out of place. This is also in a -reception- section, and seems to have very little on topic information, and what information that is there is either too playful to be helpful, or isn't from an objective source."

• I think the tone matches that of the rest of the article, and its subject. Given that it's the Marx brothers, I wouldn't expect anything less, really. It is on topic, it's the actor's view on why the network cancelled the series. Their tone may not be all too serious, but in both quotes, either statement could be true based on the era. Matthewedwards :  Chat  01:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

• "Then you have problems like "BBC Radio adaptation" having three sentences in the second paragraph completely uncited."

• Removing. I can't remember where that reference is any more, although to be honest, the episodes themselves are the verification. Whatever, though. Nothing is lost by removing it. Matthewedwards :  Chat  01:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

• "The reference list is not alphabetized. "

• Is now. Matthewedwards :  Chat  01:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

• "Other problems, such as a line in "Early development" having a footnote that relies on the dictionary to explain what words mean, which cries out original research."

• How? They are referenced to RSes. Matthewedwards :  Chat  01:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

• "[T]he first reference in "BBC Radio adaptation" was to a youtube video"; "[t]he video lacks most of the information, states that the actors were playing the previous -people-, not the previous characters. It also lacks any information on it being "updated" in any way."

• No, they were playing the characters. This can be identified by listening to the actual episodes, where they refer to each other as Flywheel and Shyster. They dressed up as Groucho and Chico for the performances for the audience. This is shown in the video, when they interview Roberts. Removed "updated" Matthewedwards :  Chat  01:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Dabomb87 (talk) 01:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)