Talk:Flossenbürg concentration camp/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 14:59, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Giving this one a look. —Ed!^(talk) 14:59, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria) (see here for this contributor's history of GA reviews)

1. It is reasonably well written:

   Pass External links, dup links and dab links look good. Copyvio detector returns green.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable:

   Pass Offline references accepted in good faith. Cursory check of Google Books shows references that back up source material here. Two cited web sources checked, and generally back up details cited.

3. It is broad in its coverage:

   Not Yet

   • "especially "asocial" and "criminal" prisoners" -- It might be worth it to explain what the standard was for this, or what kind of people they were applying this to.
   • "Background" -- if you could, note other sites selected for similar camps, later in the article it mentions five were established.

   • I'm not sure this is relevant; the article already states that similar camps were located "near rail junctions and population centers".

   • "Establishment" -- How many guard and staff were at the camp?

   • Added information, which is only available during the later years, in the "Expansion" section

   • "Most of the prisoners at Flossenbürg were classified as criminal, with some "asocial" and a few homosexual prisoners; the criminals quickly took over the prisoner functionary positions." -- Here would be a good place to note the proportion of actual violent criminals. Also the legal status of homosexuality at the time in Germany.

   • Added explanatory notes of prisoner categories at first mention.

   • "Expansion" -- Do you know where the Soviet prisoners of war were brought from?

   • Checked sources. It is not mentioned.

   • "toured Flossenbürg and praised the increased security measures." -- Any detail on what security measures he's talking about?

   • Yes, there was a push to improve camp security at the time because of a fear of prisoner uprisings. However, after looking more closely at the source, it seems that Frank only visited the subcamps in the Protectorate, so it doesn't seem relevant enough to include.

   • Subcamps could also use a map.

   • See below; which one do you prefer?

   • The last one is best, I think. —Ed!^(talk) 05:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

   • "but later on it was destined for the monumental German Stadium project and the Nazi party rally grounds in Nuremberg." -- Was any stone actually sent for these? Might indicate where it was incorporated.

   • Stone was certainly delivered, but none of these Nazi projects was ever completed. Stone was also delivered from other camps such as Mauthausen, so it's hard to say exactly what stone was used where.

   • Is there any number on the output of aircraft parts here and if it was effective in increasing German aircraft production?

   • Sadly, I do not have any more information than is in the text. this source has some info about production numbers for other camps, but not Flossenburg.

   • "The number of guards increased sixfold during 1944, and came to include many older men, members of the Wehrmacht, and five hundred SS women." -- What accounted for this staffing? Manpower shortages?

   • Yes, fixed.

   • Infobox mentions a book, this could be added to the prose somewhere or else should be cited.

   • Meh, just took it out.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy:

   Pass Note a good use of a variety of German and other sources.

5. It is stable:

   Pass No problems there.

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate:

   Pass 17 images and videos all tagged PD or CC as appropriate.

7. Other:

   Looking overall, I see a few changes that would enhance the article and meet the requirements. So placing the GAN On Hold pending a few fixes. —Ed!^(talk) 16:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Leitmeritz

Hersbruck

Stulln

Flossenbürg

Johanngeorgenstadt

Mülsen-St. Micheln

Freiberg

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Flossenbürg subcamps

Leitmeritz

Hersbruck

Stulln

Flossenbürg

Johanngeorgenstadt

Mülsen-St. Micheln

Freiberg

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Flossenbürg subcamps

Leitmeritz

Hersbruck

Stulln

Flossenbürg

Johanngeorgenstadt

Mülsen-St. Micheln

Freiberg

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Flossenbürg subcamps

OK. So I've gone ahead and added that last map per the GAN. Based on this, the article has satisfied all the major points I'd made. Based on this, going to Pass the GAN now. Thanks for your work! —Ed!^(talk) 03:49, 24 January 2019 (UTC)