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Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
"Most of the Curitiba are Essenfelders"
That sentence does not seem to mean anything that I can understand. Was the person who wrote it trying to say something else? Or is the sentence just garbage? TooManyFingers (talk) 01:39, 20 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 2 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion
According to this article, the subject's wife and the subject's mother are the same person. Something is very wrong when an article has that level of error - there might not even be consensus on who we're talking about. TooManyFingers (talk) 19:30, 20 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
I thought this problem might be the result of a misguided change to the article, but in fact the ambiguity has been here from the beginning, and as far as I can tell the version on the Portuguese Wikipedia seems almost as unclear as this one is. TooManyFingers (talk) 22:17, 21 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
@TooManyFingers: I think I found the origin of this confusion. In A História Dos Pianos Essenfelder, page 6 confirms that his wife is Maria Wilhelmina Amelie Jacomowski under her photo. Unfortunately, text in page 7 under his photo is quite confusing. It said he was the son of Ferdinand Essenfelder and Maria Jacomowski Essenfelder, but further down the page, it said he met Maria Jacomowski, daughter of Frederico Jacomowski and Carlota Wien, a native of Konigsberg, whom he married.
Either the writer/editor of this publication is confused, or his wife and mother have very similar names. Aithus (talk) 09:48, 12 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! In the source material you linked to, page 12 mentions "Florian Essenfelder Sénior", about which I'm blindly assuming two things: that it means the same thing that "Florian Essenfelder Senior" would mean in English, and that it's quite likely that the father/son similarity of names is exactly what the real problem is in sorting this out. TooManyFingers (talk) 00:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
