Talk:Flick (fencing)

Latest comment: 10 years ago by SubSevn

Can someone explain the use of the pharase lock-out in the article "(such as giving fencers the ability to "lock-out" a riposte)?" Thanks. --Epeefleche 03:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


Of course. 'Lock-out' refers to the mechanism of the electronic scoring system which disallows additional touches after a certain margin of time after the first hit. The new 2005 timings have increased the Impact Time from 1-5 ms to 13-15 ms, and decreased the blocking time (discussed above) from 750 +/-50 ms to 300 +/-25 ms. Thus, the blocking time has been effectively halved. Hope that helps to clarify. Bradybd 20:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

The problem that Epeefleche is pointing out is that the contact-time and the blocking-time are not related. The contact-time increase reduces the number of flicks which can land while also causing a "debounce" effect which is undesirable on fencers wearing hard chest protectors. The blocking-time is the maximum time interval between when the first fencer hits and the second fencer hits such that the second fencer's hit still registers in the scoring apparatus. The article suggests that it is the contact-time which could "lock-out" a riposte, and this is an error. Sean.s.butler (talk) 21:09, 28 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

I don't know how to handle this, but the picture at the top is not of a flick. The attack is being made to the shoulder at close range, and the blade is just being bent a lot as a result. Flicks aren't really made in the direction he's holding it, the top of the blade is on the inside of the curve. Flicks are almost always made with the top of the blade around the outside of the curve since you can get the nice whipping motion with your arm/hand. As an example of the preparation for a flick, look here: http://www.fencing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Ota-Baldini-webresize.jpg The fencer on the right side of the image is preparing for a flick to the shoulder of the fencer on the left side of the image. SubSevn (talk) 16:31, 31 March 2014 (UTC)Reply