Talk:First Persian invasion of Greece

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Hiernonymous in topic To be expanded!
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To be expanded! edit

This article is still under-construction. At the moment it is mostly lifted from the article Greco-Persian Wars, but it will be expanded (and the latter article contracted) soon. Please do not delete! MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 11:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Wish list: It would be nice if someone could find or generate a map of the first invasion as a stand-alone map. It's frustrating to find nothing but 'combo-maps' on which both invasions are depicted. The article isn't about the second invasion, so cluttering the map up with irrelevant information is second-best. I'll keep an eye out myself.Hiernonymous (talk) 23:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Myth-making we should aviod edit

This article is not bad per se. It's very informative, with most of the given infos, dates and time-lines accurate, but tone is awful and passe, with referencing so poor it can hardly be enough to stand serious academic trial.

On top of that, beside primary source Herodotus, this article relies practically entirely on one primary and one secondary source of "popular history" (Herodotus & Tom Holland, who is by the way much appreciated as author of fiction & science fiction, and much less as author of "popular history"). Holland's goal was to entertain western readership, and makes them able to identify themselves with ancient heroic Greeks, "defenders of western civilization", in absolutely biased account of pop-history.

If the goal is popular and propagandistic view on "creation of wester civilization", then OK, article sounds like Nat Geo program. However, if we want to avoid that trap, and if we want to provide, instead of another myth-making rubbish, decent and accurate account, but without our western bias, we should change a tone and find more secondary and tertiary references !

In the name of Ahuramazda and Athena, let's avoid rubbish like John Stuart Mill's infamous quote that "the Battle of Marathon, even as an event in British history, is more important than the Battle of Hastings", or at least let us provide some background for the 19th century British (as well as European) "Orientalism". These 19th and early 20th century often very prejudiced narratives are rejected and transcended by most historians of today, in the west as well as around the world.--Santasa99 (talk) 18:12, 28 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

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