Talk:Firman of Karamanoğlu Mehmet Bey

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The firman of 13 May 1277 quoted in this article is suspect. The date is plausible, but the reference to “parliament” is anachronistic. Can we find a more authoritative source for the quote? Aramgar 13:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I understand that in his capacity as the vezir to the pretender Jimri, Karamanoğlu Mehmet Bey instituted the use of the Turkish language in the chancellory; but this anachronistic quote must be sourced or removed. Aramgar (talk) 03:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Turkish Language???

how is it possible to use a language that majority cannot speak? It was not Turkish but Oguz(as the speakers name their language and nation) and until Mehmet II of ottomans brought some uighur translators from bukhara almost no one was able to speak Turkish, what today we call Chagatay Turkish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.100.176.216 (talk) 10:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Above remark is groundless. Oghuz is a branch of Turkic, just as Uighur. Mehmet bey did not impose a language. (By the way he was controlling only a small portion of Turkey and he didn't live long after his firman) People in Turkey was already speaking Turkish and his firman had nothing to do with the native language. He only tried to regulate the palace language which was Persian. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Kim Kimdir

Kim Kimdir is not reliable source. Takabeg (talk) 23:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Name

• Karaman Konya "Mehmet Bey" -Llc 22 results (minimum) 17, but only 4 of 17 are written in English.
• Karaman Konya "Mehmed Bey" -Llc 87 results (minimum) 30 but, only 13 of 30 are written in English.
• Karaman Konya "Mehmed Beg" -Llc 24, but 11 of 24 are written in English.
• Karaman Konya "Mehmet Beg" -Llc, 2 of 3 are written in English.

We have to note there are many Mehmed Beg/Beys in Anatolian Principalities. Results includes other Mehmed Beg/Beys.

• "Karamanid Mehmed Beg" -Llc 5, but there is a pair of same article. => 4, 2 of 4 are written by Turks.
• "Karamani Mehmed Beg" -Llc 0
• "Karamanid Mehmet Bey" -Llc 0
• "Karamani Mehmet Bey" -Llc 1, but Turkish.
• "Karamanid Mehmet Beg" -Llc 1
• "Mehmet Bey of Karaman" -Llc 0
• "Mehmed Bey of Karaman" -Llc 2
• "Mehmed Beg of Karaman" -Llc 1
• "Karamanoğlu Mehmet Bey" & "Karamanoglu Mehmet Bey" -Llc 34, but 5 of 34 are written in English (including 2 turist guide book)
• "Karamanoğlu Mehmed Bey" & "Karamanoglu Mehmed Bey" -Llc 26, but 7 of 26 are written in English and 4 of 7 are written by Turks. => 3
• "Karamanoğlu Mehmed Beg" & "Karamanoglu Mehmed Beg" -Llc 6, but 4 of 6 are written in English. 2 of 4 are written by Turks. => 2
• "Karamanoğlu Mehmet Beg" & "Karamanoglu Mehmet Beg" -Llc 2
• Karamanids + "Mehmed Beg" -Llc 16
• Karamanids + "Mehmed Bey" -Llc 8
• Karamanids + "Mehmet Bey" -Llc 5
• Karamanids + "Mehmet Beg" -Llc 3

These results includes other Karamanid Mehmed Beg (Mehmet II of Karaman)... Takabeg (talk) 18:42, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Takabeg (talk) 03:55, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

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Title and text

The title of this article is about a person. But the content is about language . I think the title should be moved to more appropriate name or else the text should be rewritten. I'll try to reach the contributers. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:38, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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