Talk:Fictional religion

Scope

Just a note that this is a more narrow concept tha religion in fiction, and broader than religion in science fiction and religion in fantasy fiction (see also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of religious ideas in science fiction and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of religious ideas in fantasy fiction - the existence and deletion of those TVTropish listicles inspired me to start something more serious on this very important topic). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:06, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 12:31, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that fictional religions, often described in speculative fiction, have in some cases inspired real religious movements? Source: numerous sources cited and even quoted in the 'In real world' section
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Red team

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 13:49, 3 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fictional religion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 15:58, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - See below.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article converted from a redirect on 31 May, and is well beyond the required minimum length. Spotchecking sources turns out mostly okay; I have noted some issues below. There are no obvious neutrality issues. Earwig reveals no copyvio and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. The hook is cited and interesting. QPQ has been done. Some comments on the content:

• See MOS:REFERSTO.
• Fictional religions can be complex and inspired by or build on existing religions. – I don't see that this is what the source is saying?
• Religious themes have always been a significant theme of fiction. – that's a strong assertion, and it doesn't seem to be verified by the cited source.
• "the official fictional religion of fantasy, science fiction, and horror, a grab bag for writers in need of unthinkably vast, and unthinkably indifferent, eldritch entities" – the source says "something like the official [...]" (emphasis mine), which makes a pretty big difference.
• Star Wars-inspired Jediism, founded around 2001 – the source doesn't say it was founded then, but that it "gathered momentum" at that time.

Ping Piotrus. TompaDompa (talk) 01:25, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, TompaDompa, Those are relatively minor issues to hash out on the article's pages in preparation for raising its class to B/GA (review) and like, neither of them should affect the article's eligibility for being DYKed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:33, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Did a few last tweaks myself, and it is now ready. On the subject of GA, I only took a fairly cursory look at the article and its sources but I think there is quite substantial work to be done before it is ready for that. The WP:Good article criteria have requirements that do not have a counterpart in the WP:DYK criteria, such as covering all major aspects without going into unnecessary details and being written clearly and concisely. TompaDompa (talk) 12:03, 5 June 2023 (UTC)