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Reviewer: This article will be reviewed. Governor Sheng (talk · contribs) 08:11, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
First of all, an introductory note to the nominator. My comments serve primarily as suggestions and invitations for discussion. As a reviewer, I am not perfect, so it is possible that I make a mistake. Furthermore, I think it is best to go one step at a time. We start from the first section and will finish with the introduction.
- Definition
"In comparison with the Western welfare chauvinism, the Serbian variant argues that minorities do not deserve to benefit from Serbian welfare programs."
- What is Western welfare chauvinism? Are there any similarities or differences with the Serbian version of this form of nationalism?
Done I've re-worded this a bit. It now states "The development of welfare chauvinism in Serbia has been similar to that in other parts of Europe; they portray minorities as "undeserving" and they argue that minorities do not deserve to benefit from Serbian welfare programs.
" which is backed up by the same source. --Vacant0 (talk) 18:01, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
"Initially, the far-right focused on other ethnic groups in former Yugoslavia, although they turned towards "internal enemies" in the 2000s."
- Why? I might assume it's because Yugoslavia collapsed, and there were conflicts with other nationalities such as Croats and Bosnian Muslims. Others might not realise this.
"At least since the late 2010s, far-right groups also began promoting several narratives regarding migrants, such as referring them as an enemy, and claiming that migrants are criminals or terrorists."
- What has happened in the late 2010s to influence the far-right groups in such a manner?
"Far-right groups had also openly taken part in Victory Day commemorations; their participation is in stark contrast to the anti-communist sentiment that is present in Serbia and other post-socialist countries."
- This is kind of odd, why is that? Is it a pro-Russia thing? Maybe it deserves a mention if so.
- Done I was not the one who added this originally, but it seems that it is because of Russophilia. The source states "
A change started in 2009 with a large-scale celebration of the Liberation Day of Belgrade, coinciding with the state visit of Dmitry Medvedev, President of Russia at the time.
" and "The revival of the state-sponsored commemorations of the People’s Liberation War has went hand in hand with the always closer relations with Russia, which is also key to understanding why political elites and radical right celebrate the past incompatible with their politics.
". --Vacant0 (talk) 18:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe there should be some sort of an explanation as to why the Serbian far-right is critical of the SFR Yugoslavia's regime on one hand, and on the other is critical of allegedly Western-supported secessionism from it. That's a known fact for me since I'm from Croatia, but others might not get it at a first glance.
- Influence
"Sources claim that between 100 and 300 "foreign fighters" joined the Russo-Ukrainian War on the side of Russia;[65] Aleksandar Vučić, the president of Serbia, claimed that foreign fighters were mercenaries, while others had stated that they were motivated by the sense of "nationalist solidarity"."
"Some foreign fighters had even joined pro-Russian paramilitary groups in Syria."
- These are Serb volunteers? Maybe it's obvious, but I think it should be clarified.
Okay. Thank you for your cooperation and contribution so far. Here are additional comments.
- Yugoslavia
"Members of the National Defence (Serbian Cyrillic: Народна одбрана, romanized: Narodna odbrana), a militaristic association, usually sided with Chetniks in conflicts."
- Can we get a link for National Defence... even though I understand it might me a link rot, I think it would be beneficial.
- Done Wikilinked to Narodna Odbrana. --Vacant0 (talk) 17:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
"Kosta Pećanac, who headed Chetnik units from the 1930s, embraced chauvinism and began serving as "legal Chetniks" after the formation of Nedić's government."
- Can you explain what a "legal Chetnik" is? Why is he referred to as such? Was there a parallel Chetnik structure that operated legally under Nedić's regime? Or received tacit support from him?
- 1990s–2000s
"After the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 and up to the Overthrow of Slobodan Milošević in October 2000, far-right conspiracy theories were spread..."
- Why the capital O in Overthrow... Is it a specific name for the event or a general term? This is a minor issue, but it needs to be referred.
- Contemporary period
"Obraz was banned a year later, although it continues to operate under a similar name."
- Why was Obraz banned? Can we get a brief explanation, in a sentence?
- Done It was banned because of their threats that led to the cancellation of the Belgrade Pride event (in the last sentence of the previous section it is stated that Public Prosecutor's office filed this proposal). I've added it with quotation marks (since it's in the RFE source). --Vacant0 (talk) 17:37, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
"Although a year later, the Identitarian branch in Serbia was dissolved..."
- Why? Was it dissolved internally or by the authorities' decision?
"A month later, a far-right group harassed and attacked several peace activist groups, including Women in Black, due to their opposition to the denial of Srebrenica massacre."
- Opposition to the denial of the massacre, or opposition to the idea that the massacre wasn't a genocide? I heard of the latter but never heard the massacre itself is denied. I could be wrong.
- SNP 1389
"It denies the Srebrenica massacre and promotes irredentism..."
- Again, do they deny the massacre or the notion that the massacre itself was a genocide? The source states the latter. --Governor Sheng (talk) 16:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
I read the text, I'll soon move to other technicalities. The narrative itself is very good.
- Others
"Far-right organizations such as "Sveti Justin Filozof" and "Nomokanon", had also received media attention."
- We're using quotation marks for Sveti Justin Filozof and Nomokanon in the first sentence, but not in the rest of the section. I think they're not necessary. We didn't use quotation marks for other organisations with non-English names. --Governor Sheng (talk) 14:55, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Technical issues edit
So, there's a problem with MOS:REPEATLINK. I'll list those that I found, if you know of more, you can fix them. Basically, in principle, a hyperlink should be used only once, or as an exception to the rule, more times - in infoboxes, the lead section, and so on.
Here are the links that are used more than one time in the body of the article (not the lead):
- Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
- Yugoslav Wars
- Kosovo
- Dimitrije Ljotić
- World War II
- Chauvinism
- Collaboration with the Axis powers
- Xenophobia
- Historical revisionism
- Vojislav Šešelj
- Overthrow of Slobodan Milošević
- Ivan Stambolić
- Pride parade
- Jovo Bakić
- Ratko Mladić
- 2012 Serbian parliamentary election
- 2015 European migrant crisis
- Electoral threshold
- NATO bombing of Yugoslavia
- COVID-19 pandemic in Serbia
- Leviathan Movement
- 2020 Serbian parliamentary election
- Enough is Enough (party)
- Women in Black
- Abortion
- Clerical fascism
- Croats
- Radovan Karadžić
- Ratko Mladić
- Greater Serbia
- Serbian Party Oathkeepers
- Srđan Nogo
- Hooliganism
- Srebrenica massacre
- Josip Broz Tito
- 2016 Serbian parliamentary election
- Nikolaj Velimirović
- Homophobia
- United Russia
- Historical revisionism
- Vojislav Šešelj
- Socialist Party of Serbia
- Aleksandar Vučić
- Serbian Progressive Party
- Accession of Serbia to the European Union
- Greater Serbia
- Croatia
- Miša Vacić
- Jim Dowson
- Marinka Tepić
- 2022 Serbian general election
- Serbian Orthodox Church
- Authoritarianism
- Boško Obradović
- Srđan Nogo
- Arkan
Generally, the links to countries and ethnic groups are discouraged, but having in mind the demographics that might read the article, I think it is advisable to just leave them there... Perhaps a large number of readers won't be familiar with where Montenegro is (not playing down on anybody, but I think it's a fact).
The term "homosexuality" is mentioned in the "Nacionalni stroj" section but linked only later in the "Obraz" section.
Links to generally familiar terms that are not necessary (excessive use of hyperlinks)
- Red (in the "Symbolism" section)
- Internet (in the "Influence" section)
- Bulletproof vest (in the "Influence" section)
- Ethnic group (in the "Yugoslavia" section)
- War (in the "Yugoslavia" section)
- Unemployment (in the "1990s–2000s" section)
- Mosque (in the "Nacionalni stroj" section)
- Gangster (in the "Individuals" section)
- Crime (in the "Individuals" section)
In the "See also" section, there are also repeated links to - Far-right politics, Neo-Nazism, and Greater Serbia.
Also, in the "1990s–2000s" section, the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina is referred to as just "Bosnia", this should be replaced with the full name "Bosnia and Herzegovina". Since in many articles, the term Bosnia is often used only for the Bosnian region.
All in all, the article meets all the GA criteria, and after these are fixed, the article will be promoted. Good work! --Governor Sheng (talk) 15:49, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Governor Sheng: All done. Thank you for the review! Vacant0 (talk) 18:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)